ActiveCampaign CEO Jason VandeBoom will share his take on traditional growth strategies, why they don’t always make sense and break down the lessons learned from scaling the unscalable into one of the fastest-growing, sustainable businesses.
11. Invest in CX
Support Team
(We all do this)
Customer Success Team
(Most are doing this)
CX Team
(We should be doing this)
(But we often overthink it)
Today - how we scaled - continue to grow/accel
Taking a less than obv path
Things that may not make sense on paper
Challenge norm
Innovating how you scale
First
All the way back 2003
consulting/repeating
Didnt like that so much
Package as on-prem / focus on smb / challenge
Decade building tools / Contact mgmt
8 tools / customer lifecycle
Not normal approach / maybe didnt provide growth results others like
learned about growing businesses/ customer experiences
Automation within each
Conclusion = unifying customer experience
Pay for things
Not abandon early customers
Since 2016
-- added 75k customers
-- 20 to over 500 people
Creating a category of Customer Experience Automation
improving how brands and customers interact
Key to our growth
Sustainable
Not needing to buy growth
Having passion
Finding a different path
Seemingly random / early stage / using same
used to like product first / thought it would solve everything
Dream - vocal - no sales team
Realization = Product first well intentioned but its narrow
We all know this. When we start a biz or launch a prod we obsess
As we find some traction.. Something interesting starts
we create distance (human instince/ think required to scale)
Cpl customers? Get support
Feedback? Tooling
replace the human component
Try to make quantitative issue
Customer experience much more qualitative
Nps / avoid / Tone vs numbers
@ac take it pretty far - read all nps/churn emails- never know actual # - But always know the tone
# Qualitative throughout org - esp to leadership - we have created paths where at risk acts surface to all levels of leadership
Goal is to surface qualitative sentiment
- that will drive team. Engagement to solve for pain & opportunities
Support - spreading tone
Success - assume it will help
Tools / Acv limit
@ac how we built success / no specific acv value
Things going great - Churn improving. Cx opp existed (based on tone)
Cx -- Create a cx role. Build into team. Not success. Looking at entire experience.
Not part of any
not cx expert
Have been able to further accelerate (now proven qual and quant)
This impact. Took an assumption. tool
Differentiating with cx just the start
Believe your path needs to be differentiated
need to innovate how you scale - just like your biz
Many talk about unscalable sales & mkting growth hacks - way to find growth
#1 growth hack is ppl
Counter intuitive -- service frowned upon
Goes against the idea of “product first”
Early on can do so much… that others cant
Freemium - strat sessions - thousands
Migrations team - 40-80 hrs. sticky/advocacy/where we build tooling
Think about your biz. What 1 thing waiting to build.. Offer today with people
dont replace people - extend reach
May sound scary/unrealistic
Thats the poiint = allows for greater opportunity
Why we focus on smb. Operate there Ent will come to you. Defensible
Wanted to see customers in person / User conf
Cultural advantage. Solving complex. Wanting challenges. drives engagement -- drive innovation - fun
first client scuba
55% intl
When people hear -- they want to know how
True international growth -- Part of dna of company
Dont bolt on
Needs to be part of culture. Part of dna of company
Dev stories / personas
Customer stories
Get face time. Hire in pers translators. Understand their difficulties
Misconception
Start with prod/eng- Easter egg- br example - transparent partial
Ready to invest? Pick single market
Avoid following peers/obvious locations
Brazil - understanding of passion and need within market
This approach - invest in highest potential - not the most proven
Common thought is you should struggle
Articles of people barely making it.
Pain idolized
True - rollercoaster - team & founders
Type of thinking makes us Look for it // keep longer than needed
Interesting. Ego-driven. to validate self
Jason overextending;
hinders growth
So how do we break?
Requires a true focus & continual work
Think about in same way as delegation & team building
At AC, focus on high/low energy moments
Invest in higher energy
Sounds simple - Growth takeaway - chase happy
Not just CEO
Company can/should have culture/framework to support
@ac
Ind level 2x year
Run programs and tests to try new things
invest L&D well beyond our peers
Most importantly. Setting expectation
A comp cant do this for people
A comp cant create happiness
But we can make it a focus. A theme
We can allow time to pursue
But we are there to help guide
While scaling a company its normal to compare
To peers
Whats on the market
So much of that is designed to
Make you feel like you are losing
Trick you down the wrong paths
false validators - or short lived partial validators
Employee count
Funding
Press, speeches
Noise
Stop worrying/chasing is freeing feeling
Need constant reminder
AC spend time on this, only to find had advantages
What’s true? May sound generic/obv
Customers. Retention. Employees. Cust Stories
Qual tone of your CX
Celebrate, long lasting / market internally (celebrate more than false) (reiterate non stop)
Do whatever you can to control ability to focus on true validators
Trust you know your business // differentiation
Follow hunches