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Interviews
Technology looking for a problem Easy-to-integrate components for
automotive suppliers
Madison Maxey Nabil Mansouri Sophia Rose Williams David Franks Alessia Morales
Stanford B.S Materials Science & Stanford GSB MSx Stanford P.h.D Student
Electrical Engineering
Stanford GSB Stanford GSB
+
Forming a Team to Find a Market
HAD:
● 5 fully granted patents
● Experience working with
customers
● A scalable, and functional
technology
● Manufacturing partner
WANTED:
● Product market fit
Week 1:
Boil the Ocean
14 Interviews
Across 5 Industries
“We believe that e-textiles are the future.”
-Director of Strategy and Digitalization
Signal from the Noise
WEEK 1
Week 1:
Boil the Ocean
Week 1
Cautiously Optimistic
Low
High
Conducted 16 more interviews with
engineers, designers, biz development
at a variety of automotive companies
Developed a clearer understanding of
the landscape and needs across
various players
Week 2: Deep Diving into Auto
Auto is a Fragmented Business
“The auto industry is fragmented, you need to choose a
sub-part of the industry to get traction.”
CTO Renovo
WEEK 2
Trying to Find our Place
Week 1
Week 2
Low
High
Confused
Week 3: Where Do We Focus?
Tier 2 Suppliers Tier 1 Suppliers
Car Brands
(OEMs)
“Talk to trim engineers about merging seat heating and auto trim together.
Eliminating a step would represent real cost savings. ”
- Automotive Seating Engineering Leader
WEEK 3
Integrating Existing Parts
“Conversations globally on the future are all EV-related with a focus on the
lightweight component. How do you reduce weight in every part of the car, whether
interior cabin or vehicle architecture?”
- President, Sage Automotive
WEEK 3
Electric Vehicles Need Lightweight Parts
Learning #1:
Lightweighting and
integrating for
electric vehicles
Lightbulb moments! WEEK 3
Learning #2:
Our customer is the
Tier 1 Supplier
We Think We Have a Customer and
a Value Prop!
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Low
High
Confused Excited!
Week 4: Value Proposition Testing
with Tier 1 Suppliers
Steering Wheels & Seat
Heating
Lighting & HMI
Headliner Lighting &
Cabling
Lighter, Easy to Integrate, and Battery
Efficient Components
New MVP: Technical Deck
● Scalable
● Robust
● Low Resistance
● Can perform many functions
● Up to 30 Layers (unlike traditional
e-textiles)
WEEK 4
MVP Progress
WEEK 4
From a
Technology to
an Application-
Specific Deck
“This is Utopia!”
- Technical Director, Eissman
WEEK 4
Grabbing it Out of Our Hands
We Have a Customer and
Validation!
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Low
High
Confused Excited!
Week 5: Turning “we love you” into an
order…
We needed to map the sales cycle
OEM Led
Tier 1 Led
R&D makes a POC or gives a
RFI/ RFQ
*must be connected to HQ to move
forward*
Brings POC to Business
Unit
Business Unit requests
additional development
and testing
Solution Validated Solution Presented to
OEMs
OEM Tells Tier 1 to work
with specific startup
*but the OEM will also
countersource pother solutions*
R&D makes a POC
*must be connected to HQ to
move forward*
Solution Presented to OEMs
Business Unit requests
additional development and
testing
Loomia sales team Does Direct
outreach to high-up R&D at
OEMS and Tier 1s
Initial Meeting to present
solution
Send a sample or do a
demonstration in person
Receive RFP from Innovation
budgets ( $100k)
Send Project Proposal
Technical meeting with Sales
Engineering
Projects can start with an OEM or a Tier 1
“Pull Method” “Push Method”
Design Win
Get Paid (Must negotiate
good terms to avoid
delayed payment)
Design Win
Get Paid (Must negotiate
good terms to avoid
delayed payment)
OEM Led
Tier 1 Led
R&D makes a POC or gives a
RFI/ RFQ
*must be connected to HQ to move
forward*
Brings POC to Business
Unit
Business Unit requests
additional development
and testing
Solution Validated Solution Presented to
OEMs
OEM Tells Tier 1 to work
with specific startup
*but the OEM will also
countersource pother solutions*
R&D makes a POC
*must be connected to HQ to
move forward*
Solution Presented to OEMs
Business Unit requests
additional development and
testing
Loomia sales team Does Direct
outreach to high-up R&D at
OEMS and Tier 1s
Initial Meeting to present
solution
Send a sample or do a
demonstration in person
Receive RFP from Innovation
budgets ( $100k)
Send Project Proposal
Technical meeting with Sales
Engineering
Projects can start with an OEM or a Tier 1
“Pull Method” “Push Method”
Design Win
Get Paid (Must negotiate
good terms to avoid
delayed payment)
Design Win
Get Paid (Must negotiate
good terms to avoid
delayed payment)
The Sales Process is Not Easy
● Could be led by the OEM or by
the Tier 1
● But both have to have buy-in
from each other
● Can take years to get in a car,
and many points along funnel
when we could drop
“Speak with investors and CEOs. Is this a
business that you want to be in?”
- Paraphrased from Steve B and Steve W
WEEK 5
Is this a venture-fundable business?
Reality Sets In...
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Low
High
Confused Excited! Skeptical
Week 6: We Need Patient Capital
Startups
Investors
Strategics and
projects are the best
way to fund this
business
“Once you make it on a vehicle, there’s big money,
fast.”
- CEO Cellink (paraphrased)
WEEK 6
A Light at The End of the Tunnel
Confusion About Funding
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5 Week 6
Low
High
Confused Excited! Skeptical
Isn’t integrating many
functions into one the
real value?
WEEK 7
Refining our Value Proposition
Week 7, 8 & 9 : Testing our
Customer-Centric Value Prop!
Easy Integration into Trim
Turn multiple parts into one part, and deliver the entire unit with Trim attached
COGs reduction supply
chain optimization
Increased market
share through superior
performance
Increased market
share through superior
aesthetics
For Tier 1s For Tier 1s & OEMs For Tier 1s & OEMs
“Can you hop on a call today? I want to learn
more about the technology.”
-VP Profitability, Adient
WEEKS 7, 8 & 9
Sensing Urgency
Can you Come to Detroit?!!!
“Can you come to Detroit? We
want to show you the plant so
we can plan a POC”
-VP of Profitability
----------
Surface Heating Opportunity
“This is Utopia”
- Head of Engineering,
Eissman Group
----------
CEO Introductions
“Keep things going with the
engineering team, but we also
want you to have a call with
the CEO - he’ll love this”
- Head of Innovation,
Sigma Intl
----------
Week 9: Loomia Automotive Sales Funnel Progress
• Cold calling
companies
• Interested
piqued! Let’s
keep talking
Proof of
Concept
Contracts
Mahindra
Toyota
Boshoku
Airbus
Ventures
Airbus R&D
Nuro
Volvo
Ventures
Grupo Antolin
Tesla
Interiors
Magna R&D
Magna
CTO
Faurecia
Jaguar
CVG
Sage
Joby
Eissman
Sigma
Int’l
Marelli
Adient
• Let’s make this
happen. POC
discussions and
negotiations
BMW
• Interested in our
product. Let’s
make it physical!
First Call 2nd Call
Exchanging
samples
NDA’s Signed
Excited! Motivated!
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7
Week 8
Week 9
Low
High
Confused Excited! Skeptical Motivated!
Automotive
Tier 1s
Business
Model
Canvas
Tier 1 Director of
Advanced Engineering
VP if Innovation
● Application research
and discovery
● Continuous technical
improvement
● Funding for free
customization
● Testing for auto
grade
● Cost engineering
Problem: Tier 1s need
to make every part of
EV energy-efficient
and lightweight
Needs:
Strategic advantage
for the company from
technology
● Anchor customer
to validate the
tech
● Manufacturing
Partner -
Eastprint
● Material Suppliers
● Sales reps/
channel partners
for B2B Sales
● Testing &
certification
partners
● COGS for unit sales and for R&D work
● Team overhead for R&D work
● Testing and certification costs
● Sales Rep / distributor costs
● Shipping costs for overseas customers
● Non-Recurring engineering fees
● Royalty on units produced
● License fees for patents
● Outbound
targeted sales
● Tradeshows/CES/
conferences
● External
Automotive
Design Studios
● Manufacturing
capabilities
● Patents
● Prototyping
Capabilities
● Data and tech sheets
on the product
● Sales Team
● Free Sampling
1
3
4 2
● Collaborative
and responsive
for product
development
5
6
7
8
9
Automotive
Tier 1s
Business
Model
Canvas
Tier 1 Director of
Advanced Engineering
VP if Innovation
● Application research
and discovery
● Continuous technical
improvement
● Funding for free
customization
● Testing for auto
grade
● Cost engineering
Problem: Tier 1s need
to make every part of
EV energy-efficient
and lightweight
Needs:
Strategic advantage
for the company from
technology
● Anchor customer
to validate the
tech
● Manufacturing
Partner -
Eastprint
● Material Suppliers
● Sales reps/
channel partners
for B2B Sales
● Testing &
certification
partners
● COGS for unit sales and for R&D work
● Team overhead for R&D work
● Testing and certification costs
● Sales Rep / distributor costs
● Shipping costs for overseas customers
● Non-Recurring engineering fees
● Royalty on units produced
● License fees for patents
● Outbound
targeted sales
● Tradeshows/CES/
conferences
● External
Automotive
Design Studios
● Manufacturing
capabilities
● Patents
● Prototyping
Capabilities
● Data and tech sheets
on the product
● Sales Team
● Free Sampling
1
3
4 2
● Collaborative
and responsive
for product
development
5
6
7
8
9
● Clarified our value prop
● Understood our Target Customer
● Understood the key activities for a
sale
From a
Technology
to a Business
in 10 Weeks
We Learned:
● That interviews are an incredible way to learn
● How it feels to have customers grab a product from our hands
● The difference between a value proposition and technical
specs
We Can’t Stop Here!
Visiting NDA’d
leads in
Michigan
Apply for NSF SBIR
grant to fund
automotive testing
Sign on
automotive proof
of concepts
to further validate
our hypothesis
Contact Us: Maddy@loomia.com
THANK YOU!

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Loomia Engr245 2021 Lessons Learned

  • 1. 110 Total Interviews Technology looking for a problem Easy-to-integrate components for automotive suppliers Madison Maxey Nabil Mansouri Sophia Rose Williams David Franks Alessia Morales Stanford B.S Materials Science & Stanford GSB MSx Stanford P.h.D Student Electrical Engineering Stanford GSB Stanford GSB
  • 2. + Forming a Team to Find a Market HAD: ● 5 fully granted patents ● Experience working with customers ● A scalable, and functional technology ● Manufacturing partner WANTED: ● Product market fit
  • 3. Week 1: Boil the Ocean 14 Interviews Across 5 Industries
  • 4. “We believe that e-textiles are the future.” -Director of Strategy and Digitalization Signal from the Noise WEEK 1
  • 7. Conducted 16 more interviews with engineers, designers, biz development at a variety of automotive companies Developed a clearer understanding of the landscape and needs across various players Week 2: Deep Diving into Auto
  • 8. Auto is a Fragmented Business “The auto industry is fragmented, you need to choose a sub-part of the industry to get traction.” CTO Renovo WEEK 2
  • 9. Trying to Find our Place Week 1 Week 2 Low High Confused
  • 10. Week 3: Where Do We Focus? Tier 2 Suppliers Tier 1 Suppliers Car Brands (OEMs)
  • 11. “Talk to trim engineers about merging seat heating and auto trim together. Eliminating a step would represent real cost savings. ” - Automotive Seating Engineering Leader WEEK 3 Integrating Existing Parts
  • 12. “Conversations globally on the future are all EV-related with a focus on the lightweight component. How do you reduce weight in every part of the car, whether interior cabin or vehicle architecture?” - President, Sage Automotive WEEK 3 Electric Vehicles Need Lightweight Parts
  • 13. Learning #1: Lightweighting and integrating for electric vehicles Lightbulb moments! WEEK 3 Learning #2: Our customer is the Tier 1 Supplier
  • 14. We Think We Have a Customer and a Value Prop! Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Low High Confused Excited!
  • 15. Week 4: Value Proposition Testing with Tier 1 Suppliers Steering Wheels & Seat Heating Lighting & HMI Headliner Lighting & Cabling Lighter, Easy to Integrate, and Battery Efficient Components
  • 16. New MVP: Technical Deck ● Scalable ● Robust ● Low Resistance ● Can perform many functions ● Up to 30 Layers (unlike traditional e-textiles) WEEK 4
  • 17. MVP Progress WEEK 4 From a Technology to an Application- Specific Deck
  • 18. “This is Utopia!” - Technical Director, Eissman WEEK 4 Grabbing it Out of Our Hands
  • 19. We Have a Customer and Validation! Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Low High Confused Excited!
  • 20. Week 5: Turning “we love you” into an order… We needed to map the sales cycle
  • 21. OEM Led Tier 1 Led R&D makes a POC or gives a RFI/ RFQ *must be connected to HQ to move forward* Brings POC to Business Unit Business Unit requests additional development and testing Solution Validated Solution Presented to OEMs OEM Tells Tier 1 to work with specific startup *but the OEM will also countersource pother solutions* R&D makes a POC *must be connected to HQ to move forward* Solution Presented to OEMs Business Unit requests additional development and testing Loomia sales team Does Direct outreach to high-up R&D at OEMS and Tier 1s Initial Meeting to present solution Send a sample or do a demonstration in person Receive RFP from Innovation budgets ( $100k) Send Project Proposal Technical meeting with Sales Engineering Projects can start with an OEM or a Tier 1 “Pull Method” “Push Method” Design Win Get Paid (Must negotiate good terms to avoid delayed payment) Design Win Get Paid (Must negotiate good terms to avoid delayed payment)
  • 22. OEM Led Tier 1 Led R&D makes a POC or gives a RFI/ RFQ *must be connected to HQ to move forward* Brings POC to Business Unit Business Unit requests additional development and testing Solution Validated Solution Presented to OEMs OEM Tells Tier 1 to work with specific startup *but the OEM will also countersource pother solutions* R&D makes a POC *must be connected to HQ to move forward* Solution Presented to OEMs Business Unit requests additional development and testing Loomia sales team Does Direct outreach to high-up R&D at OEMS and Tier 1s Initial Meeting to present solution Send a sample or do a demonstration in person Receive RFP from Innovation budgets ( $100k) Send Project Proposal Technical meeting with Sales Engineering Projects can start with an OEM or a Tier 1 “Pull Method” “Push Method” Design Win Get Paid (Must negotiate good terms to avoid delayed payment) Design Win Get Paid (Must negotiate good terms to avoid delayed payment) The Sales Process is Not Easy ● Could be led by the OEM or by the Tier 1 ● But both have to have buy-in from each other ● Can take years to get in a car, and many points along funnel when we could drop
  • 23. “Speak with investors and CEOs. Is this a business that you want to be in?” - Paraphrased from Steve B and Steve W WEEK 5 Is this a venture-fundable business?
  • 24. Reality Sets In... Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Week 5 Low High Confused Excited! Skeptical
  • 25. Week 6: We Need Patient Capital Startups Investors Strategics and projects are the best way to fund this business
  • 26. “Once you make it on a vehicle, there’s big money, fast.” - CEO Cellink (paraphrased) WEEK 6 A Light at The End of the Tunnel
  • 27. Confusion About Funding Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Week 5 Week 6 Low High Confused Excited! Skeptical
  • 28. Isn’t integrating many functions into one the real value? WEEK 7 Refining our Value Proposition
  • 29. Week 7, 8 & 9 : Testing our Customer-Centric Value Prop! Easy Integration into Trim Turn multiple parts into one part, and deliver the entire unit with Trim attached COGs reduction supply chain optimization Increased market share through superior performance Increased market share through superior aesthetics For Tier 1s For Tier 1s & OEMs For Tier 1s & OEMs
  • 30. “Can you hop on a call today? I want to learn more about the technology.” -VP Profitability, Adient WEEKS 7, 8 & 9 Sensing Urgency
  • 31. Can you Come to Detroit?!!! “Can you come to Detroit? We want to show you the plant so we can plan a POC” -VP of Profitability ----------
  • 32. Surface Heating Opportunity “This is Utopia” - Head of Engineering, Eissman Group ----------
  • 33. CEO Introductions “Keep things going with the engineering team, but we also want you to have a call with the CEO - he’ll love this” - Head of Innovation, Sigma Intl ----------
  • 34. Week 9: Loomia Automotive Sales Funnel Progress • Cold calling companies • Interested piqued! Let’s keep talking Proof of Concept Contracts Mahindra Toyota Boshoku Airbus Ventures Airbus R&D Nuro Volvo Ventures Grupo Antolin Tesla Interiors Magna R&D Magna CTO Faurecia Jaguar CVG Sage Joby Eissman Sigma Int’l Marelli Adient • Let’s make this happen. POC discussions and negotiations BMW • Interested in our product. Let’s make it physical! First Call 2nd Call Exchanging samples NDA’s Signed
  • 35. Excited! Motivated! Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Week 5 Week 6 Week 7 Week 8 Week 9 Low High Confused Excited! Skeptical Motivated!
  • 36. Automotive Tier 1s Business Model Canvas Tier 1 Director of Advanced Engineering VP if Innovation ● Application research and discovery ● Continuous technical improvement ● Funding for free customization ● Testing for auto grade ● Cost engineering Problem: Tier 1s need to make every part of EV energy-efficient and lightweight Needs: Strategic advantage for the company from technology ● Anchor customer to validate the tech ● Manufacturing Partner - Eastprint ● Material Suppliers ● Sales reps/ channel partners for B2B Sales ● Testing & certification partners ● COGS for unit sales and for R&D work ● Team overhead for R&D work ● Testing and certification costs ● Sales Rep / distributor costs ● Shipping costs for overseas customers ● Non-Recurring engineering fees ● Royalty on units produced ● License fees for patents ● Outbound targeted sales ● Tradeshows/CES/ conferences ● External Automotive Design Studios ● Manufacturing capabilities ● Patents ● Prototyping Capabilities ● Data and tech sheets on the product ● Sales Team ● Free Sampling 1 3 4 2 ● Collaborative and responsive for product development 5 6 7 8 9
  • 37. Automotive Tier 1s Business Model Canvas Tier 1 Director of Advanced Engineering VP if Innovation ● Application research and discovery ● Continuous technical improvement ● Funding for free customization ● Testing for auto grade ● Cost engineering Problem: Tier 1s need to make every part of EV energy-efficient and lightweight Needs: Strategic advantage for the company from technology ● Anchor customer to validate the tech ● Manufacturing Partner - Eastprint ● Material Suppliers ● Sales reps/ channel partners for B2B Sales ● Testing & certification partners ● COGS for unit sales and for R&D work ● Team overhead for R&D work ● Testing and certification costs ● Sales Rep / distributor costs ● Shipping costs for overseas customers ● Non-Recurring engineering fees ● Royalty on units produced ● License fees for patents ● Outbound targeted sales ● Tradeshows/CES/ conferences ● External Automotive Design Studios ● Manufacturing capabilities ● Patents ● Prototyping Capabilities ● Data and tech sheets on the product ● Sales Team ● Free Sampling 1 3 4 2 ● Collaborative and responsive for product development 5 6 7 8 9 ● Clarified our value prop ● Understood our Target Customer ● Understood the key activities for a sale
  • 38. From a Technology to a Business in 10 Weeks We Learned: ● That interviews are an incredible way to learn ● How it feels to have customers grab a product from our hands ● The difference between a value proposition and technical specs
  • 39. We Can’t Stop Here! Visiting NDA’d leads in Michigan Apply for NSF SBIR grant to fund automotive testing Sign on automotive proof of concepts to further validate our hypothesis Contact Us: Maddy@loomia.com