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A Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue
Growth
Mark Roberge
Senior Lecturer, Harvard Business School
Former CRO @HubSpot
@markroberge
2 @markroberge
ACME Software*
ACME software offers augmented reality blockchain cybersecurity software to
SMB, mid-market, and enterprise customers.
* Fictitious company
 Developed Minimal Viable Product
 Acquired 10 Beta Customers
 Fixed all product bugs
 Developed 3 customer case studies
 Set goals to triple revenue next year
 Hired 5 sales people in the following quarter
One Year Later
 Low usage of product by customers
 Customer churn rapidly increasing
 Product reviews online are suffering
 Fired 2 of the 5 salespeople
 Revenue grows 30%
Pothole Alert!
Many companies suffer from pre-
mature revenue growth
What is the optimal growth path?
REVENUE GROWTH
REVENUERETENTION
Mediocre
(i.e. 50%)
Awesome
(i.e. 200%)
Mediocre
(i.e.70%)
Awesome
(i.e.100%)
OPTION A
Awesome Revenue
Growth
Improve Retention
OPTION B
Awesome Retention
Improve Revenue Growth
Easier to accelerate growth with world class retention than
fix retention while maintaining rapid growth
REVENUE GROWTH
REVENUERETENTION
Mediocre
(i.e. 50%)
Awesome
(i.e. 200%)
Mediocre
(i.e.70%)
Awesome
(i.e.100%)
Goal of Phase
Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth
When to scale? How fast?
#1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat
Experiment Scale
Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat
Pothole Alert!
Sales is first and foremost about
creating customer value. Revenue
and profits are an outcome of
customer value creation.
Prioritizing Customer Success: “Why Now”?
Goal of Phase
Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth
Measuring Customer Success
#1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat
Experiment Scale
Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat
Annual Revenue Retention >
100%
Annual Customer Retention >
90%
Annual Revenue Retention = [ARR (start of year) – Churn + Upgrades] / ARR (start of year)
Annual Customer Retention = [#Customers (start of year) – Customer Churn] / # Customers (start o
Pothole Alert!
Churn is a silent killer. Identifying a
leading indicator to churn (and
customer success) is critical.
Define the customer success leading indicator
Defining your customer
success leading indicator
 Observable in weeks or months, not quarters or years
 Measurement can be automated
 Ideally correlated to the product CVP
 Repeat purchase, referral, setup, usage, ROI are all
common. Revenue is usually a mistake.
 OK to use multiple metrics
2,000 Team messages
sent
1 file added to 1 folder on 1
device
Using 5 of 20 features within 60
days
% of customers that achieve customer value by month of tenure
1. Define customer success measurement
2. Define acceptable percentage of customers reaching value [product-market fit]
3. Measure by customer cohort
The Real Product-Market Fit
Consistent Customer Value Creation
Align Go-To-Market organization with customer
success leading indicator
Sales Hiring
Customer Success
Marketing
Product / Engineering
 Hire “innovator” sales people vs. “coin-operated”
• Mix of product manager and seller
 Measure on % of customers achieving success leading
indicator within 90 days
 Define MQLs around customer attributes that are most
likely to succeed
• i.e. company size, industry, geography, role, tech stack, etc.
 Study customers that do not achieve the customer success
leading indicator within 90 days. Align short term product
enhancements around these observations.
Sales Compensation  Align sales compensation with success leading indicator
• 50% of comp on contract. 50% when leading indicator achieved
14
Test and iterate Go-To-Market playbook
using daily film reviews
Conduct Daily
Film Reviews
Reflect on and
Apply
Learnings
Iterate Sales
Playbook
1. Buyer Journey
2. Discovery Guide
3. Presentation
Guide
Film Review Meeting Flow
1. Listen to call as a team
2. Self assessment from
salesperson with recording
3. Positive feedback
4. Areas of improvement
5. Open for team comments
6. Manager recap
1. Was the sales playbook optimal
for this prospect or were their
gaps?
2. If there were gaps, are they
unique to this prospect or
representative of the customer
segment?
Film Review Setup
1 salesperson records call
1 salesperson prepares positive
feedback
1 salesperson prepares needs
for improvement feedback
Monitor customer success leading indicator
% of customers that achieve leading indicator status by month of tenure
Goal of Phase
Target Market
GTM Process
Compensation
Demand Gen.
Pricing
Sales Hiring
Early Adopter
Personal Network + Referrals
Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth
When to scale? How fast?
#1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat
Experiment Scale
Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat
Customer Success Focused
Solve for Customer Commitment
Process Builder
Based on Customer Success
Goal of Phase
Target Market
GTM Process
Compensation
Demand Gen.
Pricing
Sales Hiring
Early Adopter
Personal Network + Referrals
Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth
When to scale? How fast?
#1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat
Experiment Scale
Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat
Customer Success Focused
Solve for Customer Commitment
Process Builder
Based on Customer Success
LTV/CAC > 3
Payback < 12
Goal of Phase
Target Market
GTM Process
Compensation
Demand Gen.
Pricing
Sales Hiring
Early Adopter
Personal Network + Referrals
Early Majority
1 Scalable, Measurable Medium
Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth
When to scale? How fast?
#1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat
Experiment Scale
Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat
Customer Success Focused Codify
Based on Customer Success
Customer Success + Unit
Economics
Solve for Customer Commitment Solve for Unit Economics
Process Builder Process Executor
Am I scaling to fast or too slow?
Set up You GTM Speedometer
Customer Success Unit Economics
LTV/CAC > 3
Payback < 12
GTM Speedometer
1. Automate your GTM Speedometer, shown below
2. Establish a pace, not a single hiring target (i.e. hire 1 rep per month, not 15 tomorrow)
3. Monitor your GTM Speedometer. If it looks good, increase your speed. If it breaks, slow down and fix.
Goal of Phase
Target Market
GTM Process
Compensation
Demand Gen.
Pricing
Sales Hiring
Early Adopter
Personal Network + Referrals
Early Majority
1 Scalable, Measurable Medium
Expand
Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth
When to scale? How fast?
#1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat
Experiment Scale
Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat
Customer Success Focused Codify
Customer Success + Unit
Economics
Solve for Customer Commitment Solve for Unit Economics
Process Builder Process Executor
Based on Customer Success
21 @markroberge
ACME Software*
ACME software offers augmented reality blockchain cybersecurity software to
SMB, mid-market, and enterprise customers.
* Fictitious company
 ARR = $10M
 ARR Y/Y Growth = 200%
 LTV/CAC = 4.3
 Logo Churn = 8% annual
 Revenue Retention = 115% annual
 Payback = 12 months
One Year Later
 Logo churn increased to 15%
 Payback Period increased to 19 months
 Growth slows to 70%
Raise $30M to:
 Expand sales team from 6 to 15 in 2018
 Expand upstream to enterprise customers
 Diversity inbound marketing with outbound and
channel partners
 Maintain 200% Y/Y ARR growth
Pothole Alert!
Over optimism about the breadth of
product-market and go-to-market fit
across customer segments and
demand generation mediums
23 @markroberge
Identify best growth options. Run experiments
EXPERIMEN
T OPTION
AVOID
SCALE
EXPERIMEN
T OPTION
Market
Product
Existing New
NewExistin
g EXPERIMEN
T OPTION
AVOID
SCALE
EXPERIMEN
T OPTION
Market
DemandGen.Channel
Existing New
NewExistin
g
24 @markroberge
ACME Software Revenue Segments
$3M ARR
18 Mo. Payback
15% Logo
Churn
$5M ARR
8 Mo. Payback
6% Logo Churn
$1M ARR
3 Mo. Payback
0% Logo
Churn*
$1M ARR
23 Mo. Payback
3% Logo Churn
Size of Customer
SourceofCustomer
SMB Mid-Market Enterprise
Inbound
Outbound
Partners
* Low Product Setup and Usage
25 @markroberge
Identify “Scale” vs. “Experiment” vs. “Ignore” Segments
EXPERIMENT
Prod-Mkt Fit
GTM Fit
SCALE
Prod-Mkt Fit
GTM Fit
EXPERIMENT
Prod-Mkt Fit
GTM Fit
IGNORE
Prod-Mkt Fit
GTM Fit
EXPERIMENT
Prod-Mkt Fit
GTM Fit
Experiment
Prod-Mkt Fit
GTM Fit
IGNORE
Prod-Mkt Fit
GTM Fit
IGNORE
Prod-Mkt Fit
GTM Fit
IGNORE
Prod-Mkt Fit
GTM Fit
Market
Channel
SMB Mid-Market Enterprise
Inbound
Outbound
Partners
26 @markroberge
Scale teams where there is Product-Market and GTM Fit
Setup small cross-functional teams for experiment segments
SMB Inbound
(Experiment)
MKT
AE
AE
CS
M
Mid-Market
Outbound
(Experiment)
AE
AE
CS
M
SDR
SDR
Enterprise Inbound
(Experiment)
AE
CS
M
Mid-Market Inbound (Scale)
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
CS
M
CS
M
CS
M
MKT
MKT
MKT
Existing Employee New Hire
Goal of Phase
Target Market
GTM Process
Compensation
Demand Gen.
Pricing
Sales Hiring
Early Adopter
Personal Network + Referrals
Early Majority
1 Scalable, Measurable Medium
Expand
Many Mediums.
Tightly Aligned with Sales.
Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth
When to scale? How fast?
#1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat
Experiment Scale
Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat
Customer Success Focused Codify
Customer Success + Unit
Economics
Solve for Customer Commitment Solve for Unit Economics
Process Builder Process Executor
Based on Customer Success
Sales and Marketing Alignment
Step by Step Guide to the Marketing SLA
BetterQualityCompanies
Better Lead Engagement
Firmographic
Engagement
ABC
Blog Sign- eBook Download Demo Request
A
B
C
10K > # Employees >
1K
# Employees > 10K
1K > # Employees > 100
$100
$75
$40
$90
$55
$25
$80
$20
$10
* Data has been altered from actual HubSpot data for the purposes of this presentation.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
Profitability
Sales Attempts
Small Business Mid-Market Enterprise
The Sales SLA
Calculate the ideal number of sales attempts for each type of lead
The Sales SLA
Sales SLA Criteria
1. Contact new leads < 2
hours
2. Contact leads > 3 times
within 7 days
3. Contact leads > 6 times
within 21 days
4. Close Sales Opps in < 6
months
0.0%
20.0%
40.0%
60.0%
80.0%
100.0%
120.0%
1-Sep 8-Sep 15-Sep 22-Sep 29-Sep
Plan Actual
Monitor Sales Activity and Marketing Daily
Marketing SLA Status Sales SLA Status
Goal of Phase
Target Market
GTM Process
Compensation
Demand Gen.
Pricing
Sales Hiring
Early Adopter
Personal Network + Referrals
Early Majority
1 Scalable, Measurable Medium
Expand
Many Mediums.
Tightly Aligned with Sales.
Role Specialist
Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth
When to scale? How fast?
#1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat
Experiment Scale
Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat
Customer Success Focused Codify
Customer Success + Unit
Economics
Solve for Customer Commitment Solve for Unit Economics
Process Builder Process Executor
Based on Customer Success
34 @markroberge
What do you look
for in a sales hire?
The ideal sales hiring formula is
different for every company…
but the process to engineer the
formula is the same.
36 @markroberge
37 @markroberge
Engineer Your Own Sales Hiring Formula
38 @markroberge
Hold the organization accountable to defining the
sales hiring formula
Assess hiring manager
performance. Iterate
sales hiring formula
Assess and
hire candidates
against
6 months post-
hire, reflect on
why the hire is
great (or poor)
39 @markroberge
Which criteria scored highest for HubSpot?
INTELLIGENT
or
COACHABLE
or
CURIOUS
40 @markroberge
The HubSpot Sales Hiring Formula
 Coach-ability
 Curiosity
 Intelligence
 Work Ethic
 Prior Success
41 @markroberge
My Sales Interview Process
 [Interview starts in the lobby. Let the candidate lead.]
 Does the candidate break the ice?
 Did the candidate do any research on me?
 Does the candidate execute a genuine, natural set of questions about me, my weekend, the company, etc.?
 Why are you interested in working at this company? Where do you hope to be in your career in 5 years?
 [Easy questions to warm the candidate up. Well articulated career goals never hurt.]
 I see you are an account executive at [insert their company]. How many account executives are there?
What was your rank? Is that based on bookings or revenue? Is it based on the year or the quarter?
 [Assess “Prior Success”. Tope 5% is strong. Top 25% is the bar. If the candidate is not in the top 25%, the candidate
must be very strong in other areas.]
 What was it about your approach that allowed you to achieve such a high rank? Why weren’t you #1?
 Understand their perception of their strengths.
 Beware of external excuse making for the second question (i.e. bad manager, bad territory, bad product). A strong self
critique is preferable.
42 @markroberge
My Sales Interview Process (cont.)
 Let’s do a role play. I will play the VP of Marketing at a small security software company. You will play a
salesperson at HubSpot. Let’s assume I downloaded a whitepaper from your website on Inbound Marketing,
leaving my email and phone number, and this lead was provided to you this morning for follow up.
 Test whether sales candidate has a naturally curious sales approach.
 Observe how the salesperson starts. A 10 minute pre-amble on their background and company is not good (show up
and throw up).
 A series of thoughtful questions about the prospect’s goals in downloading the white paper is good
 During the role play, ask a challenging question about how SEO or inbound marketing works?
 Tests candidate’s preparation and learning curve
 [Stop the role play] How did you do?
 “Excellent” is not a great response.
 A detailed analysis of what the candidate did well and could have improved on shows humility and the openness to
coaching.
 In every interview, I provide candidates with one strength and one area of improvement. [Deliver coaching]
 Tests openness to absorb coaching.
 [Repeat the role play]
 Tests ability to apply coaching.
Goal of Phase
Target Market
GTM Process
Compensation
Demand Gen.
Pricing
Sales Hiring
Early Adopter
Personal Network + Referrals
Early Majority
1 Scalable, Measurable Medium
Expand
Many Mediums.
Tightly Aligned with Sales.
Role Specialist
Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth
When to scale? How fast?
#1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat
Experiment Scale
Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat
Customer Success Focused Codify Codify into Systems
Customer Success + Unit
Economics
Solve for Customer Commitment Solve for Unit Economics
Process Builder Process Executor
Based on Customer Success
44 @markroberge
Coaching:
Golf vs. Sales
“Data-Driven Sales Coaching”
Use data to diagnose the skill
deficiency. Customize a coaching plan.
Engineer a data-driven sales culture
* Data has been altered from actual HubSpot data for the purposes of this presentation
Each Color
Represents a
Different
Sales Rep
* Data has been altered from actual HubSpot data for the
purposes of this presentation
Lead-Worked-to-Connect Ratio
Connect-to-Demo Ratio
“Peel Back the Onion” for More Insight
Hold organization accountable to a data-
driven coaching culture
Morning
Afternoon
1st Day of Month 2nd Day of Month
VP Meets with Director
 Review Skill/Development Plans
for each sales person
Director Meets with Manager
 Review Skill/Development Plans
for each sales person
Manager Meets with Sales Person
 Discuss qualitative performance
 Review individual metrics
 Co-Create Skill/Development Plan
Sales Person / Manager Independent Reviews
 Think through qualitative performance
 Review individual metrics
 Think about Skill/Development Plan
Example monthly coaching plan
REP DIAGNOSIS COACHING PLAN METRICS GOAL
Brian
Over-investment in
unqualified opportunities
Weekly opportunity review of BANT post
discovery call.
Demo-to-Customer ratio >
30%
Erin
Developing Sense of
Urgency
Pre-call planning and post mortem reviews
on urgency
Discovery-call-to-
customer % > 30%
Fred
Time management
issues
Place 2 hours of prospecting into daily
calendar. Send daily email to manager of
new leads contacted and appointments set.
Average 5+ new
appointments per week
Carlos Lack of personal goals
Personal conversation on financial goals.
Map to daily activity.
Average 5+ new
appointments per week
Hold team, especially management, accountable
to coaching progress
R
E
P
DIAGNOSIS COACHING PLAN METRICS GOAL
Bri
an
Over-investment in unqualified
opportunities
Weekly opportunity review of BANT post discovery call. Demo-to-Customer ratio > 30%
Eri
n
Developing Sense of Urgency Pre-call planning andpost mortem reviews on urgency
Discovery-call-to-customer % >
30%
Fr
ed
Time management issues
Place 2 hours of prospecting into daily calendar. Send daily
email to manager of new leads contacted and appointments
set.
Average 5+ new appointments
per week
Ca
rlo
s
Lack of personal goals
Personal conversation on financialgoals. Map to daily
activity.
Average 5+ new appointments
per week
June Coaching Plans
R
E
P
DIAGNOSIS COACHING PLAN METRICS GOAL
Bri
an
Over-investment in unqualified
opportunities
Weekly opportunity review of BANT post discovery call. Demo-to-Customer ratio > 30%
Eri
n
Developing Sense of Urgency Pre-call planning andpost mortem reviews on urgency
Discovery-call-to-customer % >
30%
Fr
ed
Time management issues
Place 2 hours of prospecting into daily calendar. Send daily
email to manager of new leads contacted and appointments
set.
Average 5+ new appointments
per week
Ca
rlo
s
Lack of personal goals
Personal conversation on financialgoals. Map to daily
activity.
Average 5+ new appointments
per week
July Coaching Plans
R
E
P
DIAGNOSIS COACHING PLAN METRICS GOAL
Bri
an
Over-investment in unqualified
opportunities
Weekly opportunity review of BANT post discovery call. Demo-to-Customer ratio > 30%
Eri
n
Developing Sense of Urgency Pre-call planning andpost mortem reviews on urgency
Discovery-call-to-customer % >
30%
Fr
ed
Time management issues
Place 2 hours of prospecting into daily calendar. Send daily
email to manager of new leads contacted and appointments
set.
Average 5+ new appointments
per week
Ca
rlo
s
Lack of personal goals
Personal conversation on financialgoals. Map to daily
activity.
Average 5+ new appointments
per week
August Coaching Plans
51 @markroberge
Data-Driven Sales Management Applicable to Enterprise Sales
www.insightsquared.com
Goal of Phase
Target Market
GTM Process
Compensation
Demand Gen.
Pricing
Sales Hiring
Early Adopter
Personal Network + Referrals
Early Majority
1 Scalable, Measurable Medium
Expand
Many Mediums.
Tightly Aligned with Sales.
Role Specialist
Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth
When to scale? How fast?
#1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat
Experiment Scale
Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat
Customer Success Focused Codify Codify into Systems
Customer Success + Unit
Economics
Add Promotion Path
Solve for Customer Commitment Solve for Unit Economics Assess Disruption Risk
Process Builder Process Executor
Based on Customer Success
Opportunity to remove subjectivity from promotions and
compensation adjustments
Success and failure in sales is highly quantifiable. Take advantage.
Goal of Phase
Target Market
GTM Process
Compensation
Demand Gen.
Pricing
Sales Hiring
Early Adopter
Personal Network + Referrals
Early Majority
1 Scalable, Measurable Medium
Expand
Many Mediums.
Tightly Aligned with Sales.
Role Specialist
Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth
When to scale? How fast?
#1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat
Experiment Scale
Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat
Customer Success Focused Codify Codify into Systems
Customer Success + Unit
Economics
Add Promotion Path
Solve for Customer Commitment Solve for Unit Economics Assess Disruption Risk
Process Builder Process Executor
Based on Customer Success
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• Hilary Headlee – Head of Sales Ops @ Zoom, MindBody
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• Carol Meyers – CMO @ Rapid7
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• Andrew Rains – CRO @ Automotive Mastermind, VTS
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Equality Programs
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Step by Step Guide to Revenue Growth

  • 1. A Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth Mark Roberge Senior Lecturer, Harvard Business School Former CRO @HubSpot @markroberge
  • 2. 2 @markroberge ACME Software* ACME software offers augmented reality blockchain cybersecurity software to SMB, mid-market, and enterprise customers. * Fictitious company  Developed Minimal Viable Product  Acquired 10 Beta Customers  Fixed all product bugs  Developed 3 customer case studies  Set goals to triple revenue next year  Hired 5 sales people in the following quarter One Year Later  Low usage of product by customers  Customer churn rapidly increasing  Product reviews online are suffering  Fired 2 of the 5 salespeople  Revenue grows 30%
  • 3. Pothole Alert! Many companies suffer from pre- mature revenue growth
  • 4. What is the optimal growth path? REVENUE GROWTH REVENUERETENTION Mediocre (i.e. 50%) Awesome (i.e. 200%) Mediocre (i.e.70%) Awesome (i.e.100%) OPTION A Awesome Revenue Growth Improve Retention OPTION B Awesome Retention Improve Revenue Growth
  • 5. Easier to accelerate growth with world class retention than fix retention while maintaining rapid growth REVENUE GROWTH REVENUERETENTION Mediocre (i.e. 50%) Awesome (i.e. 200%) Mediocre (i.e.70%) Awesome (i.e.100%)
  • 6. Goal of Phase Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth When to scale? How fast? #1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat Experiment Scale Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat
  • 7. Pothole Alert! Sales is first and foremost about creating customer value. Revenue and profits are an outcome of customer value creation.
  • 9. Goal of Phase Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth Measuring Customer Success #1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat Experiment Scale Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat Annual Revenue Retention > 100% Annual Customer Retention > 90% Annual Revenue Retention = [ARR (start of year) – Churn + Upgrades] / ARR (start of year) Annual Customer Retention = [#Customers (start of year) – Customer Churn] / # Customers (start o
  • 10. Pothole Alert! Churn is a silent killer. Identifying a leading indicator to churn (and customer success) is critical.
  • 11. Define the customer success leading indicator Defining your customer success leading indicator  Observable in weeks or months, not quarters or years  Measurement can be automated  Ideally correlated to the product CVP  Repeat purchase, referral, setup, usage, ROI are all common. Revenue is usually a mistake.  OK to use multiple metrics 2,000 Team messages sent 1 file added to 1 folder on 1 device Using 5 of 20 features within 60 days
  • 12. % of customers that achieve customer value by month of tenure 1. Define customer success measurement 2. Define acceptable percentage of customers reaching value [product-market fit] 3. Measure by customer cohort The Real Product-Market Fit Consistent Customer Value Creation
  • 13. Align Go-To-Market organization with customer success leading indicator Sales Hiring Customer Success Marketing Product / Engineering  Hire “innovator” sales people vs. “coin-operated” • Mix of product manager and seller  Measure on % of customers achieving success leading indicator within 90 days  Define MQLs around customer attributes that are most likely to succeed • i.e. company size, industry, geography, role, tech stack, etc.  Study customers that do not achieve the customer success leading indicator within 90 days. Align short term product enhancements around these observations. Sales Compensation  Align sales compensation with success leading indicator • 50% of comp on contract. 50% when leading indicator achieved
  • 14. 14 Test and iterate Go-To-Market playbook using daily film reviews Conduct Daily Film Reviews Reflect on and Apply Learnings Iterate Sales Playbook 1. Buyer Journey 2. Discovery Guide 3. Presentation Guide Film Review Meeting Flow 1. Listen to call as a team 2. Self assessment from salesperson with recording 3. Positive feedback 4. Areas of improvement 5. Open for team comments 6. Manager recap 1. Was the sales playbook optimal for this prospect or were their gaps? 2. If there were gaps, are they unique to this prospect or representative of the customer segment? Film Review Setup 1 salesperson records call 1 salesperson prepares positive feedback 1 salesperson prepares needs for improvement feedback
  • 15. Monitor customer success leading indicator % of customers that achieve leading indicator status by month of tenure
  • 16. Goal of Phase Target Market GTM Process Compensation Demand Gen. Pricing Sales Hiring Early Adopter Personal Network + Referrals Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth When to scale? How fast? #1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat Experiment Scale Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat Customer Success Focused Solve for Customer Commitment Process Builder Based on Customer Success
  • 17. Goal of Phase Target Market GTM Process Compensation Demand Gen. Pricing Sales Hiring Early Adopter Personal Network + Referrals Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth When to scale? How fast? #1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat Experiment Scale Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat Customer Success Focused Solve for Customer Commitment Process Builder Based on Customer Success LTV/CAC > 3 Payback < 12
  • 18. Goal of Phase Target Market GTM Process Compensation Demand Gen. Pricing Sales Hiring Early Adopter Personal Network + Referrals Early Majority 1 Scalable, Measurable Medium Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth When to scale? How fast? #1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat Experiment Scale Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat Customer Success Focused Codify Based on Customer Success Customer Success + Unit Economics Solve for Customer Commitment Solve for Unit Economics Process Builder Process Executor
  • 19. Am I scaling to fast or too slow? Set up You GTM Speedometer Customer Success Unit Economics LTV/CAC > 3 Payback < 12 GTM Speedometer 1. Automate your GTM Speedometer, shown below 2. Establish a pace, not a single hiring target (i.e. hire 1 rep per month, not 15 tomorrow) 3. Monitor your GTM Speedometer. If it looks good, increase your speed. If it breaks, slow down and fix.
  • 20. Goal of Phase Target Market GTM Process Compensation Demand Gen. Pricing Sales Hiring Early Adopter Personal Network + Referrals Early Majority 1 Scalable, Measurable Medium Expand Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth When to scale? How fast? #1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat Experiment Scale Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat Customer Success Focused Codify Customer Success + Unit Economics Solve for Customer Commitment Solve for Unit Economics Process Builder Process Executor Based on Customer Success
  • 21. 21 @markroberge ACME Software* ACME software offers augmented reality blockchain cybersecurity software to SMB, mid-market, and enterprise customers. * Fictitious company  ARR = $10M  ARR Y/Y Growth = 200%  LTV/CAC = 4.3  Logo Churn = 8% annual  Revenue Retention = 115% annual  Payback = 12 months One Year Later  Logo churn increased to 15%  Payback Period increased to 19 months  Growth slows to 70% Raise $30M to:  Expand sales team from 6 to 15 in 2018  Expand upstream to enterprise customers  Diversity inbound marketing with outbound and channel partners  Maintain 200% Y/Y ARR growth
  • 22. Pothole Alert! Over optimism about the breadth of product-market and go-to-market fit across customer segments and demand generation mediums
  • 23. 23 @markroberge Identify best growth options. Run experiments EXPERIMEN T OPTION AVOID SCALE EXPERIMEN T OPTION Market Product Existing New NewExistin g EXPERIMEN T OPTION AVOID SCALE EXPERIMEN T OPTION Market DemandGen.Channel Existing New NewExistin g
  • 24. 24 @markroberge ACME Software Revenue Segments $3M ARR 18 Mo. Payback 15% Logo Churn $5M ARR 8 Mo. Payback 6% Logo Churn $1M ARR 3 Mo. Payback 0% Logo Churn* $1M ARR 23 Mo. Payback 3% Logo Churn Size of Customer SourceofCustomer SMB Mid-Market Enterprise Inbound Outbound Partners * Low Product Setup and Usage
  • 25. 25 @markroberge Identify “Scale” vs. “Experiment” vs. “Ignore” Segments EXPERIMENT Prod-Mkt Fit GTM Fit SCALE Prod-Mkt Fit GTM Fit EXPERIMENT Prod-Mkt Fit GTM Fit IGNORE Prod-Mkt Fit GTM Fit EXPERIMENT Prod-Mkt Fit GTM Fit Experiment Prod-Mkt Fit GTM Fit IGNORE Prod-Mkt Fit GTM Fit IGNORE Prod-Mkt Fit GTM Fit IGNORE Prod-Mkt Fit GTM Fit Market Channel SMB Mid-Market Enterprise Inbound Outbound Partners
  • 26. 26 @markroberge Scale teams where there is Product-Market and GTM Fit Setup small cross-functional teams for experiment segments SMB Inbound (Experiment) MKT AE AE CS M Mid-Market Outbound (Experiment) AE AE CS M SDR SDR Enterprise Inbound (Experiment) AE CS M Mid-Market Inbound (Scale) AE AE AE AE AE AE AE AE AE AE CS M CS M CS M MKT MKT MKT Existing Employee New Hire
  • 27. Goal of Phase Target Market GTM Process Compensation Demand Gen. Pricing Sales Hiring Early Adopter Personal Network + Referrals Early Majority 1 Scalable, Measurable Medium Expand Many Mediums. Tightly Aligned with Sales. Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth When to scale? How fast? #1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat Experiment Scale Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat Customer Success Focused Codify Customer Success + Unit Economics Solve for Customer Commitment Solve for Unit Economics Process Builder Process Executor Based on Customer Success
  • 28. Sales and Marketing Alignment
  • 29. Step by Step Guide to the Marketing SLA BetterQualityCompanies Better Lead Engagement Firmographic Engagement ABC Blog Sign- eBook Download Demo Request A B C 10K > # Employees > 1K # Employees > 10K 1K > # Employees > 100 $100 $75 $40 $90 $55 $25 $80 $20 $10
  • 30. * Data has been altered from actual HubSpot data for the purposes of this presentation. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Profitability Sales Attempts Small Business Mid-Market Enterprise The Sales SLA Calculate the ideal number of sales attempts for each type of lead
  • 31. The Sales SLA Sales SLA Criteria 1. Contact new leads < 2 hours 2. Contact leads > 3 times within 7 days 3. Contact leads > 6 times within 21 days 4. Close Sales Opps in < 6 months
  • 32. 0.0% 20.0% 40.0% 60.0% 80.0% 100.0% 120.0% 1-Sep 8-Sep 15-Sep 22-Sep 29-Sep Plan Actual Monitor Sales Activity and Marketing Daily Marketing SLA Status Sales SLA Status
  • 33. Goal of Phase Target Market GTM Process Compensation Demand Gen. Pricing Sales Hiring Early Adopter Personal Network + Referrals Early Majority 1 Scalable, Measurable Medium Expand Many Mediums. Tightly Aligned with Sales. Role Specialist Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth When to scale? How fast? #1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat Experiment Scale Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat Customer Success Focused Codify Customer Success + Unit Economics Solve for Customer Commitment Solve for Unit Economics Process Builder Process Executor Based on Customer Success
  • 34. 34 @markroberge What do you look for in a sales hire?
  • 35. The ideal sales hiring formula is different for every company… but the process to engineer the formula is the same.
  • 37. 37 @markroberge Engineer Your Own Sales Hiring Formula
  • 38. 38 @markroberge Hold the organization accountable to defining the sales hiring formula Assess hiring manager performance. Iterate sales hiring formula Assess and hire candidates against 6 months post- hire, reflect on why the hire is great (or poor)
  • 39. 39 @markroberge Which criteria scored highest for HubSpot? INTELLIGENT or COACHABLE or CURIOUS
  • 40. 40 @markroberge The HubSpot Sales Hiring Formula  Coach-ability  Curiosity  Intelligence  Work Ethic  Prior Success
  • 41. 41 @markroberge My Sales Interview Process  [Interview starts in the lobby. Let the candidate lead.]  Does the candidate break the ice?  Did the candidate do any research on me?  Does the candidate execute a genuine, natural set of questions about me, my weekend, the company, etc.?  Why are you interested in working at this company? Where do you hope to be in your career in 5 years?  [Easy questions to warm the candidate up. Well articulated career goals never hurt.]  I see you are an account executive at [insert their company]. How many account executives are there? What was your rank? Is that based on bookings or revenue? Is it based on the year or the quarter?  [Assess “Prior Success”. Tope 5% is strong. Top 25% is the bar. If the candidate is not in the top 25%, the candidate must be very strong in other areas.]  What was it about your approach that allowed you to achieve such a high rank? Why weren’t you #1?  Understand their perception of their strengths.  Beware of external excuse making for the second question (i.e. bad manager, bad territory, bad product). A strong self critique is preferable.
  • 42. 42 @markroberge My Sales Interview Process (cont.)  Let’s do a role play. I will play the VP of Marketing at a small security software company. You will play a salesperson at HubSpot. Let’s assume I downloaded a whitepaper from your website on Inbound Marketing, leaving my email and phone number, and this lead was provided to you this morning for follow up.  Test whether sales candidate has a naturally curious sales approach.  Observe how the salesperson starts. A 10 minute pre-amble on their background and company is not good (show up and throw up).  A series of thoughtful questions about the prospect’s goals in downloading the white paper is good  During the role play, ask a challenging question about how SEO or inbound marketing works?  Tests candidate’s preparation and learning curve  [Stop the role play] How did you do?  “Excellent” is not a great response.  A detailed analysis of what the candidate did well and could have improved on shows humility and the openness to coaching.  In every interview, I provide candidates with one strength and one area of improvement. [Deliver coaching]  Tests openness to absorb coaching.  [Repeat the role play]  Tests ability to apply coaching.
  • 43. Goal of Phase Target Market GTM Process Compensation Demand Gen. Pricing Sales Hiring Early Adopter Personal Network + Referrals Early Majority 1 Scalable, Measurable Medium Expand Many Mediums. Tightly Aligned with Sales. Role Specialist Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth When to scale? How fast? #1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat Experiment Scale Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat Customer Success Focused Codify Codify into Systems Customer Success + Unit Economics Solve for Customer Commitment Solve for Unit Economics Process Builder Process Executor Based on Customer Success
  • 45. “Data-Driven Sales Coaching” Use data to diagnose the skill deficiency. Customize a coaching plan.
  • 46. Engineer a data-driven sales culture * Data has been altered from actual HubSpot data for the purposes of this presentation Each Color Represents a Different Sales Rep
  • 47. * Data has been altered from actual HubSpot data for the purposes of this presentation Lead-Worked-to-Connect Ratio Connect-to-Demo Ratio “Peel Back the Onion” for More Insight
  • 48. Hold organization accountable to a data- driven coaching culture Morning Afternoon 1st Day of Month 2nd Day of Month VP Meets with Director  Review Skill/Development Plans for each sales person Director Meets with Manager  Review Skill/Development Plans for each sales person Manager Meets with Sales Person  Discuss qualitative performance  Review individual metrics  Co-Create Skill/Development Plan Sales Person / Manager Independent Reviews  Think through qualitative performance  Review individual metrics  Think about Skill/Development Plan
  • 49. Example monthly coaching plan REP DIAGNOSIS COACHING PLAN METRICS GOAL Brian Over-investment in unqualified opportunities Weekly opportunity review of BANT post discovery call. Demo-to-Customer ratio > 30% Erin Developing Sense of Urgency Pre-call planning and post mortem reviews on urgency Discovery-call-to- customer % > 30% Fred Time management issues Place 2 hours of prospecting into daily calendar. Send daily email to manager of new leads contacted and appointments set. Average 5+ new appointments per week Carlos Lack of personal goals Personal conversation on financial goals. Map to daily activity. Average 5+ new appointments per week
  • 50. Hold team, especially management, accountable to coaching progress R E P DIAGNOSIS COACHING PLAN METRICS GOAL Bri an Over-investment in unqualified opportunities Weekly opportunity review of BANT post discovery call. Demo-to-Customer ratio > 30% Eri n Developing Sense of Urgency Pre-call planning andpost mortem reviews on urgency Discovery-call-to-customer % > 30% Fr ed Time management issues Place 2 hours of prospecting into daily calendar. Send daily email to manager of new leads contacted and appointments set. Average 5+ new appointments per week Ca rlo s Lack of personal goals Personal conversation on financialgoals. Map to daily activity. Average 5+ new appointments per week June Coaching Plans R E P DIAGNOSIS COACHING PLAN METRICS GOAL Bri an Over-investment in unqualified opportunities Weekly opportunity review of BANT post discovery call. Demo-to-Customer ratio > 30% Eri n Developing Sense of Urgency Pre-call planning andpost mortem reviews on urgency Discovery-call-to-customer % > 30% Fr ed Time management issues Place 2 hours of prospecting into daily calendar. Send daily email to manager of new leads contacted and appointments set. Average 5+ new appointments per week Ca rlo s Lack of personal goals Personal conversation on financialgoals. Map to daily activity. Average 5+ new appointments per week July Coaching Plans R E P DIAGNOSIS COACHING PLAN METRICS GOAL Bri an Over-investment in unqualified opportunities Weekly opportunity review of BANT post discovery call. Demo-to-Customer ratio > 30% Eri n Developing Sense of Urgency Pre-call planning andpost mortem reviews on urgency Discovery-call-to-customer % > 30% Fr ed Time management issues Place 2 hours of prospecting into daily calendar. Send daily email to manager of new leads contacted and appointments set. Average 5+ new appointments per week Ca rlo s Lack of personal goals Personal conversation on financialgoals. Map to daily activity. Average 5+ new appointments per week August Coaching Plans
  • 51. 51 @markroberge Data-Driven Sales Management Applicable to Enterprise Sales www.insightsquared.com
  • 52. Goal of Phase Target Market GTM Process Compensation Demand Gen. Pricing Sales Hiring Early Adopter Personal Network + Referrals Early Majority 1 Scalable, Measurable Medium Expand Many Mediums. Tightly Aligned with Sales. Role Specialist Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth When to scale? How fast? #1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat Experiment Scale Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat Customer Success Focused Codify Codify into Systems Customer Success + Unit Economics Add Promotion Path Solve for Customer Commitment Solve for Unit Economics Assess Disruption Risk Process Builder Process Executor Based on Customer Success
  • 53. Opportunity to remove subjectivity from promotions and compensation adjustments Success and failure in sales is highly quantifiable. Take advantage.
  • 54. Goal of Phase Target Market GTM Process Compensation Demand Gen. Pricing Sales Hiring Early Adopter Personal Network + Referrals Early Majority 1 Scalable, Measurable Medium Expand Many Mediums. Tightly Aligned with Sales. Role Specialist Step-by-Step Guide to Revenue Growth When to scale? How fast? #1 Product-Market Fit #2 Go-to-Market Fit #3 Growth and Moat Experiment Scale Customer Success Unit Economics Growth & Moat Customer Success Focused Codify Codify into Systems Customer Success + Unit Economics Add Promotion Path Solve for Customer Commitment Solve for Unit Economics Assess Disruption Risk Process Builder Process Executor Based on Customer Success
  • 55. 55 @markroberge Jay PoJill Rowley Mark Roberge
  • 56. OUR LPs ARE SALES, MARKETING, AND CUSTOMER SUCCESS EXPERTS • Jay Simons – President, VP S&M @ Atlassian • Emmanuelle Skala – SVP Customer Success @ Toast, Digital Ocean • Oliver Jay – Head of Sales @ Asana, DropBox • Syndey Sloan – CMO @ Salesloft, Jive, Adobe • Brian Halligan – CEO @ HubSpot • Hilary Headlee – Head of Sales Ops @ Zoom, MindBody • Josh Allen – CRO @ Drift, CarGurus • Carol Meyers – CMO @ Rapid7 • Jed Nachman – COO, CRO @ Yelp • Lesley Young – Global Sales @ Facebook Workplace, Box • John Boucher – SVP @ Oracle, ServiceSource • Kara Gilbert – Chief People Officer @ Turbonomic • Andrew Rains – CRO @ Automotive Mastermind, VTS • David Meerman Scott – Speaker & Best Selling Author • Jeetu Mahtani – SVP International Sales @ HubSpot • Lou Shipley – CEO @ Blackduck Software • Tom Chavez – CEO @ Superset, Krux • Bill Vellante – GM @Infor, Workday, Oracle • Jim Norton – CRO@ Dosh, Conde Nast, AOL, Google • Larry D’Angelo – Chief Sales Officer @ LogMeIn • Mike Volpe – CEO @ Lola, CMO @ HubSpot • Michael Manne – CRO @ Reonomy, Namely • Mike McGuinness – Chief Customer Officer @ Veracode • Mike Arntz – SVP Sales @ SmartSheet, NetSuite
  • 57. 57 @markroberge All proceeds go to Ayele Shakur Build.org CEO
  • 58. Molly Ford Sr. Director, Global Equality Programs Salesforce @QueenMollyMol How we did it: Gender Equality, Equal Pay, and Racial Equality with Salesforce Leyla Seka EVP, Mobile Salesforce @LeylaSeka
  • 59. Thanks! Mark Roberge Managing Director @ Stage 2 Capital Senior Lecturer, Harvard Business School Former CRO @ HubSpot @markroberge