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Kevin Forcet
TONIGHT’S SPEAKER
Lessons from
Crowds A few thoughts on
creating atypical
B2B2C propositions
Kevin Forcet
Product Manager at Conversocial
Background in Product Management & Community Management
Previous employers include Riot Games & Ubisoft
“Business to business to consumer (B2B2C) is an e-commerce model that
combines business to business (B2B) and business to consumer (B2C) for a
complete product or service transaction.
B2B2C is a collaboration process that, in theory, creates mutually beneficial
service and product delivery channels.”
Techopedia
Definition of B2B2C
Community powered peer-to-peer social resolution on
Twitter
Definition of Crowds
Crowds in a nutshell
Twitter people
with questions
Crowds users
(experts) with answers
BRAND/CLIENT
What Crowds looks like
Challenges
How do you make it work when Client & User define value
differently and have completely different requirements?
Breaking Ground
01 Handling our chicken & egg
Start with the Client
Why start with the Client?
1. Has a defined, existing need
2. Has a clear endgame with win conditions
3. Has resources you can use for MVP
This should you help populate and iterate the following:
1. Business Model Canvas
2. Win conditions
3. Assumptions Register
Create with the User
We started with the client, but the user is key: no user, no value
You must maintain a completely independent set of documents:
1. Product Vision Board
2. Ethnographic Research
3. Use Cases
4. User Case Matrix
5. Key expectations
6. Assumptions Register
Bridging the gap
Combining both will leave you with:
● Product backlog
● Important commonalities (both want the same thing)
● Client exclusives
● User environment (more about this in a minute)
● Feature Value Matrix
● Separate sets of assumptions to start testing
Essential additional user
requirements
Environment
02
User psychology
What motivates Users:
● Altruism
● Economic gain
● Status gain
● Competitive spirit
Unlike Clients, Users are not purely economic agents.
This is something that Clients need to understand and accept
The superfluous essential
As free agents, Users have requirements outside of the narrow scope of basic
Client requirements.
Failure to address those requirements will affect User adoption and decrease the
value of your app, so you need to strike the right balance.
Example: leaderboards, incentivisation, built-in communication channels
Asymmetric Simplicity
03 Different design approaches
for Client & User
Designing for clients
Clients:
● Can be trained or supported individually
● Have an economic incentive to use your tool
● Expect high degree of customisation, and accept some pain points
Designing for Users
Users:
● Cannot be onboarded individually
● Have no external incentive to use your tool
● Experience faster & more repetitive user flows
Simplicity and ease of use is your goal here.
Example: 2.0 overhaul
92 SUS Score
Example: Clipboard
89 SUS Score
Balancing listening with
guiding Clients & Users
Creating Informed
Impulse
04
Support your corporate evangelists:
● Find the right people
● Make short introductory content available for key questions
● Make comprehensive follow-up content available as well
Educate Clients to your unique challenges:
● What do they need to know about external constraints
● Do it in a way that makes sense to them & those they report to
● Be open and transparent about product backlog & prioritisation
Empower your Clients
It is on you to
● Identify what is important to Users. Back it up!
● Educate Clients about User needs & challenges
● Balance making Users happy with making Clients happy
Be the voice of the User
We faced 3 specific issues across Clients & Users:
● Different expectations
● Different levels of understanding
● Different levels of buy-in
As the central point of contact you have the best overall understanding
You must show leadership by increasing general knowledge, framing expectations
and suggesting solutions over possibilities
Show leadership
Conditions for leadership
● Be accessible
● Be transparent
● Be honest
● Communicate clearly with all sides
● Balance expectations, utility & visibility
● Make it clear that you are a positive force but might have to say no
Any immediate questions?
Please feel free to get in touch later with
any questions or feedback:
kevin@conversocial.com
Thank you for your time
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How to Design a B2B2C App by Conversocial PM

  • 1. www.productschool.com How to Design a B2B2C App by Conversocial PM
  • 2. FREE INVITE Join 30,000+ Product Managers on
  • 3. COURSES Product Management Learn the skills you need to land a product manager job
  • 4. COURSES Coding for Managers Build a website and gain the technical knowledge to lead software engineers
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  • 9. Lessons from Crowds A few thoughts on creating atypical B2B2C propositions
  • 10. Kevin Forcet Product Manager at Conversocial Background in Product Management & Community Management Previous employers include Riot Games & Ubisoft
  • 11. “Business to business to consumer (B2B2C) is an e-commerce model that combines business to business (B2B) and business to consumer (B2C) for a complete product or service transaction. B2B2C is a collaboration process that, in theory, creates mutually beneficial service and product delivery channels.” Techopedia Definition of B2B2C
  • 12. Community powered peer-to-peer social resolution on Twitter Definition of Crowds
  • 13. Crowds in a nutshell Twitter people with questions Crowds users (experts) with answers BRAND/CLIENT
  • 15. Challenges How do you make it work when Client & User define value differently and have completely different requirements?
  • 16. Breaking Ground 01 Handling our chicken & egg
  • 17. Start with the Client Why start with the Client? 1. Has a defined, existing need 2. Has a clear endgame with win conditions 3. Has resources you can use for MVP This should you help populate and iterate the following: 1. Business Model Canvas 2. Win conditions 3. Assumptions Register
  • 18. Create with the User We started with the client, but the user is key: no user, no value You must maintain a completely independent set of documents: 1. Product Vision Board 2. Ethnographic Research 3. Use Cases 4. User Case Matrix 5. Key expectations 6. Assumptions Register
  • 19. Bridging the gap Combining both will leave you with: ● Product backlog ● Important commonalities (both want the same thing) ● Client exclusives ● User environment (more about this in a minute) ● Feature Value Matrix ● Separate sets of assumptions to start testing
  • 21. User psychology What motivates Users: ● Altruism ● Economic gain ● Status gain ● Competitive spirit Unlike Clients, Users are not purely economic agents. This is something that Clients need to understand and accept
  • 22. The superfluous essential As free agents, Users have requirements outside of the narrow scope of basic Client requirements. Failure to address those requirements will affect User adoption and decrease the value of your app, so you need to strike the right balance. Example: leaderboards, incentivisation, built-in communication channels
  • 23. Asymmetric Simplicity 03 Different design approaches for Client & User
  • 24. Designing for clients Clients: ● Can be trained or supported individually ● Have an economic incentive to use your tool ● Expect high degree of customisation, and accept some pain points
  • 25. Designing for Users Users: ● Cannot be onboarded individually ● Have no external incentive to use your tool ● Experience faster & more repetitive user flows Simplicity and ease of use is your goal here.
  • 28. Balancing listening with guiding Clients & Users Creating Informed Impulse 04
  • 29. Support your corporate evangelists: ● Find the right people ● Make short introductory content available for key questions ● Make comprehensive follow-up content available as well Educate Clients to your unique challenges: ● What do they need to know about external constraints ● Do it in a way that makes sense to them & those they report to ● Be open and transparent about product backlog & prioritisation Empower your Clients
  • 30. It is on you to ● Identify what is important to Users. Back it up! ● Educate Clients about User needs & challenges ● Balance making Users happy with making Clients happy Be the voice of the User
  • 31. We faced 3 specific issues across Clients & Users: ● Different expectations ● Different levels of understanding ● Different levels of buy-in As the central point of contact you have the best overall understanding You must show leadership by increasing general knowledge, framing expectations and suggesting solutions over possibilities Show leadership
  • 32. Conditions for leadership ● Be accessible ● Be transparent ● Be honest ● Communicate clearly with all sides ● Balance expectations, utility & visibility ● Make it clear that you are a positive force but might have to say no
  • 33. Any immediate questions? Please feel free to get in touch later with any questions or feedback: kevin@conversocial.com Thank you for your time
  • 34. www.productschool.com Part-time Product Management, Coding, Data, Digital Marketing and Blockchain courses in San Francisco, Silicon Valley, New York, Santa Monica, Los Angeles, Austin, Boston, Boulder, Chicago, Denver, Orange County, Seattle, Bellevue, Toronto, London and Online

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  2. We started with the client, but the user is key: no user, no value