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Managing Career & Expectations(Talk at one of the IIMs)by  Mr. R. Gopalakrishnan,  Executive Director -Tata Sons
There is a Thai saying that experience is a comb which Nature gives to manafter he is bald. As I grow bald, I would like to share my comb with you.
1. Seek out grassroots level experienceI studied Physics and Engineering at University. A few months beforegraduation, I appeared for an HLL interview for Computer Traineeship. Whenasked whether I would consider Marketing instead of Computers, I respondednegatively : an engineer to visit grocery shops to sell Dalda or Lifebuoy?Gosh, no way. After I joined the Company and a couple of comfortable weeksin the swanky Head Office, I was given a train ticket to go to Nasik. WouldI please meet Mr. Kelkar to whom I would be attached for the next twomonths? He would teach me to work as a salesman in his territory, whichincluded staying in Kopargaon and Pimpalgaon among other small towns. I wasmost upset. In a town called Ozhar, I was moving around from shop to shopwith a bullock cart full of products and a salesman's folder in my hand.Imagine my embarrassment when an IIT friend appeared in front of me inOzhar, believe it or not! And exclaimed, "Gopal, I thought you joined as aManagement Trainee in Computers". I could have died a thousand deaths.After this leveling experience, I was less embarrassed to work as aDispatch Clerk in the Company Depot and an Invoice Clerk in the AccountsDepartment. Several years later, I realised the value of such grassrootslevel experience. It is fantastic. I would advise young people to seek outnail-dirtying, collar-soiling, shoe-wearing tasks. That is how you learnabout organizations, about the true nature of work, and the dignity of themany, many tasks that go into building great enterprises.
2. Deserve before you desireAt one stage, I was appointed as the Brand Manager for Lifebuoy and Pearssoap, the company's most popular-priced and most premium soaps. And whatwas a Brand Manager? "A mini-businessman, responsible for the production,sales and profits of the brand, accountable for its long-term growth, etc.,etc. I had read those statements, I believed them and here I was, at 27,"incharge of everything". But very soon, I found I could not move a pinwithout checking with my seniors. One evening, after turning the Facitmachine handle through various calculations, I sat in front of theMarketing Director. I expressed my frustration and gently asked whether Icould not be given total charge. He smiled benignly and said, "Theperception and reality are both right. You will get total charge when youknow more about the brand than anyone else in this company about itsformulation, the raw materials, the production costs, the consumer'sperception, the distribution and so on. How long do you think that it willtake?" "Maybe, ten years", I replied, "and I don't expect to be theLifebuoy and Pears Brand Manager for so long"! And then suddenly, thelesson was clear. I was desiring total control, long before I deserved it.This happens to us all the time - in terms of responsibilities, in terms ofpostings and promotions, it happens all the time that there is a gapbetween our perception of what we deserve and the reality of what we get.It helps to deserve before we desire.
3. Play to win but win with fairnessLife is competitive and of course, you play to win. But think about thebalance. Will you do anything, to win? Perhaps not. Think deeply about howand where you draw the line. Each person draws it differently, and in doingso, it helps to think about values. Winning without values provides dubiousfulfillment. The leaders who have contributed the most are the ones with aset of universal values! V Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King forexample. Napoleon inspired a ragged, mutinous and half-starved army tofight and seize power. This brought him name and fame for twenty years. Butall the while, he was driven forward by a selfish and evil ambition, andnot in pursuit of a great ideal. He finally fell because of his selfishambition. I am fond of referring to the Pierre de Coubertin Fair PlayTrophy. It was instituted in 1964 by the founder of the modern OlympicGames and here are two examples of winners. A Hungarian tennis player whopleaded with the umpire to give his opponent some more time to recover froma cramp. A British kayak team who were trailing the Danish kayak team. Theythen stopped to help the Danish team whose boat was stuck. The Danes wenton to beat the British by one second in a three hour event! What wonderfulexamples of sportsmanship! Play to Win, but with Fairness.
4. Enjoy whatever you doSir Thomas Lipton is credited with the statement, "There is no greater funthan hard work". You usually excel in fields, which you truly enjoy. Askany person what it is that interferes with his enjoyment of existence. Hewill say, "The struggle for life". What he probably means is the strugglefor success. Unless a person has learnt what to do with success aftergetting it, the very achievement of it must lead him to unhappiness.Aristotle wrote, "Humans seek happiness as an end in itself, not as a meansto something else". But if you think about it, we should not work forhappiness. We should work as happy people. In organizational life, peopleget busy doing something to be happy. The more you try to be happy, themore unhappy you can get. Your work and career is all about you’re reachingyour full potential. Working at one's full potential, whether it is theoffice boy or the Chairman, leads to enjoyment and fulfillment. A lastpoint about enjoyment. Keep a sense of humor about yourself. Too manypeople are in danger of taking themselves far too seriously. As General JoeStilwell is reported to have said, "Keep smiling. The higher the monkeyclimbs, the more you can see of his backside".
5. Be Passionate about your healthOf course, as you get older, you would have a slight paunch, graying ofhair or loss of it and so on. But it is in the first 5 - 7 years after theworking career begins that the greatest neglect of youthful health occurs.Sportsmen stop playing sports, non drinkers drink alcohol, light smokerssmoke more, active people sit on chairs, and starving inmates of hostelseat rich food in good hotels and so on. These are the years to watch. Donot, I repeat do not, convince yourself that you are too busy, or that youdo not have access to facilities, or worst of all, that you do this torelieve the stresses of a professional career. A professional career isindeed very stressful. There is only one person who can help you to copewith the tension, avoid the doctor's scalpel, and to feel good each morning- and that is yourself. God has given us as good a health as He has, a bitlike a credit balance in the bank. Grow it, maintain it, but do not allowits value destruction. The penalty is very high in later years.
6. Direction is more important than distanceEvery golfer tries to drive the ball to a very long distance. In theprocess, all sorts of mistakes occur because the game involves the masterlyco-ordination of several movements simultaneously. The golf coach alwaysadvises that direction is more important than distance. So it is with life.Despite one's best attempts, there will be ups and downs. It isrelationships and friendships that enable a person to navigate the choppywaters that the ship of life will encounter. When I was young, there was amemorable film by Frank Capra, starring James Stewart and Dona Reed, andnamed IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE. It is about a man who is about to commitsuicide because he thinks he is a failure. An angel is sent to rescue him.The bottom line of the film is that "No Man is a Failure Who Has Friends".
Conclusion:My generation will never be twenty again, but when you are older, you canand should be different from my generation. Ours is a great and wonderfulcountry, and realizing her true potential in the global arena depends everso much on the quality and persistence of our young people.Good luck in your journey, my young friends, and God be with you.

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Gopalkrishnan IIM talk

  • 1. Managing Career & Expectations(Talk at one of the IIMs)by Mr. R. Gopalakrishnan, Executive Director -Tata Sons
  • 2. There is a Thai saying that experience is a comb which Nature gives to manafter he is bald. As I grow bald, I would like to share my comb with you.
  • 3. 1. Seek out grassroots level experienceI studied Physics and Engineering at University. A few months beforegraduation, I appeared for an HLL interview for Computer Traineeship. Whenasked whether I would consider Marketing instead of Computers, I respondednegatively : an engineer to visit grocery shops to sell Dalda or Lifebuoy?Gosh, no way. After I joined the Company and a couple of comfortable weeksin the swanky Head Office, I was given a train ticket to go to Nasik. WouldI please meet Mr. Kelkar to whom I would be attached for the next twomonths? He would teach me to work as a salesman in his territory, whichincluded staying in Kopargaon and Pimpalgaon among other small towns. I wasmost upset. In a town called Ozhar, I was moving around from shop to shopwith a bullock cart full of products and a salesman's folder in my hand.Imagine my embarrassment when an IIT friend appeared in front of me inOzhar, believe it or not! And exclaimed, "Gopal, I thought you joined as aManagement Trainee in Computers". I could have died a thousand deaths.After this leveling experience, I was less embarrassed to work as aDispatch Clerk in the Company Depot and an Invoice Clerk in the AccountsDepartment. Several years later, I realised the value of such grassrootslevel experience. It is fantastic. I would advise young people to seek outnail-dirtying, collar-soiling, shoe-wearing tasks. That is how you learnabout organizations, about the true nature of work, and the dignity of themany, many tasks that go into building great enterprises.
  • 4. 2. Deserve before you desireAt one stage, I was appointed as the Brand Manager for Lifebuoy and Pearssoap, the company's most popular-priced and most premium soaps. And whatwas a Brand Manager? "A mini-businessman, responsible for the production,sales and profits of the brand, accountable for its long-term growth, etc.,etc. I had read those statements, I believed them and here I was, at 27,"incharge of everything". But very soon, I found I could not move a pinwithout checking with my seniors. One evening, after turning the Facitmachine handle through various calculations, I sat in front of theMarketing Director. I expressed my frustration and gently asked whether Icould not be given total charge. He smiled benignly and said, "Theperception and reality are both right. You will get total charge when youknow more about the brand than anyone else in this company about itsformulation, the raw materials, the production costs, the consumer'sperception, the distribution and so on. How long do you think that it willtake?" "Maybe, ten years", I replied, "and I don't expect to be theLifebuoy and Pears Brand Manager for so long"! And then suddenly, thelesson was clear. I was desiring total control, long before I deserved it.This happens to us all the time - in terms of responsibilities, in terms ofpostings and promotions, it happens all the time that there is a gapbetween our perception of what we deserve and the reality of what we get.It helps to deserve before we desire.
  • 5. 3. Play to win but win with fairnessLife is competitive and of course, you play to win. But think about thebalance. Will you do anything, to win? Perhaps not. Think deeply about howand where you draw the line. Each person draws it differently, and in doingso, it helps to think about values. Winning without values provides dubiousfulfillment. The leaders who have contributed the most are the ones with aset of universal values! V Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King forexample. Napoleon inspired a ragged, mutinous and half-starved army tofight and seize power. This brought him name and fame for twenty years. Butall the while, he was driven forward by a selfish and evil ambition, andnot in pursuit of a great ideal. He finally fell because of his selfishambition. I am fond of referring to the Pierre de Coubertin Fair PlayTrophy. It was instituted in 1964 by the founder of the modern OlympicGames and here are two examples of winners. A Hungarian tennis player whopleaded with the umpire to give his opponent some more time to recover froma cramp. A British kayak team who were trailing the Danish kayak team. Theythen stopped to help the Danish team whose boat was stuck. The Danes wenton to beat the British by one second in a three hour event! What wonderfulexamples of sportsmanship! Play to Win, but with Fairness.
  • 6. 4. Enjoy whatever you doSir Thomas Lipton is credited with the statement, "There is no greater funthan hard work". You usually excel in fields, which you truly enjoy. Askany person what it is that interferes with his enjoyment of existence. Hewill say, "The struggle for life". What he probably means is the strugglefor success. Unless a person has learnt what to do with success aftergetting it, the very achievement of it must lead him to unhappiness.Aristotle wrote, "Humans seek happiness as an end in itself, not as a meansto something else". But if you think about it, we should not work forhappiness. We should work as happy people. In organizational life, peopleget busy doing something to be happy. The more you try to be happy, themore unhappy you can get. Your work and career is all about you’re reachingyour full potential. Working at one's full potential, whether it is theoffice boy or the Chairman, leads to enjoyment and fulfillment. A lastpoint about enjoyment. Keep a sense of humor about yourself. Too manypeople are in danger of taking themselves far too seriously. As General JoeStilwell is reported to have said, "Keep smiling. The higher the monkeyclimbs, the more you can see of his backside".
  • 7. 5. Be Passionate about your healthOf course, as you get older, you would have a slight paunch, graying ofhair or loss of it and so on. But it is in the first 5 - 7 years after theworking career begins that the greatest neglect of youthful health occurs.Sportsmen stop playing sports, non drinkers drink alcohol, light smokerssmoke more, active people sit on chairs, and starving inmates of hostelseat rich food in good hotels and so on. These are the years to watch. Donot, I repeat do not, convince yourself that you are too busy, or that youdo not have access to facilities, or worst of all, that you do this torelieve the stresses of a professional career. A professional career isindeed very stressful. There is only one person who can help you to copewith the tension, avoid the doctor's scalpel, and to feel good each morning- and that is yourself. God has given us as good a health as He has, a bitlike a credit balance in the bank. Grow it, maintain it, but do not allowits value destruction. The penalty is very high in later years.
  • 8. 6. Direction is more important than distanceEvery golfer tries to drive the ball to a very long distance. In theprocess, all sorts of mistakes occur because the game involves the masterlyco-ordination of several movements simultaneously. The golf coach alwaysadvises that direction is more important than distance. So it is with life.Despite one's best attempts, there will be ups and downs. It isrelationships and friendships that enable a person to navigate the choppywaters that the ship of life will encounter. When I was young, there was amemorable film by Frank Capra, starring James Stewart and Dona Reed, andnamed IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE. It is about a man who is about to commitsuicide because he thinks he is a failure. An angel is sent to rescue him.The bottom line of the film is that "No Man is a Failure Who Has Friends".
  • 9. Conclusion:My generation will never be twenty again, but when you are older, you canand should be different from my generation. Ours is a great and wonderfulcountry, and realizing her true potential in the global arena depends everso much on the quality and persistence of our young people.Good luck in your journey, my young friends, and God be with you.