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Public attitudes to poverty and child poverty
Contents
1.  Poverty in the UK
  •    Context
  •    Importance
  •    Attitudes to people in poverty


2.  Child poverty in the UK
  •    Awareness & recognition
  •    Importance
  •    Attitudes to children in poverty and their families


3.  Guidelines for campaigning and communicating about
    child poverty
Poverty in the UK

  Context
  Importance
  Attitudes to people in poverty
People are hunkered down and focusing on the
           aspects of life that they can control
                                                                                                “I Just feel like I’ve got
                                                                                                   no way of affecting
                                                                             Britain            what goes on out there
                                                                                                 – especially now that
            14%                                                                                 it’s all about Europe…”
      Optimistic
                                                                     Where I live &                   “I am definitely
                                                                                                     working harder – I
                                                                     work                          need the company to
            34%                                                               “Shopping in a
                                                                                                    do well, and I need
                                                                                                     to keep my job”
      Optimistic                                                               few different
                                                            “We’ve been           places,
                                                             doing a lot          getting       “I think I’m just
                                                             more simple      coupons, that     focusing on how
                                                            cheap treats      sort of thing”      much I spend,
            52%                                             with the kids”                     what I buy, making
                                                                                               things last longer.”
      Optimistic                                                      Me & my family
Sources:	
  YouGov;	
  BritainThinks	
  qualita8ve	
  data	
  	
  
Economic concerns are a lens for everything
            right now
                 Thinking about the next two or three years, how worried are you that people like you will...

                     Not	
  have	
  enough	
     Suffer	
  directly	
         Lose	
  their	
  job/	
               	
  
                      money	
  to	
  live	
       from	
  cuts	
  in	
       have	
  difficulty	
          Lose	
  their	
  home	
  
                       comfortably	
             public	
  services	
         finding	
  work	
                     	
  



                      65%	
   66%	
   59%	
   42%	
  
                                    60%	
         “the	
  cuts	
  are	
  having	
  an	
  impact	
  on	
  my	
  own	
  life”   	
  
Sources:	
  YouGov,	
  Sept	
  2012	
  	
  
People who see themselves as “working class”
           are almost all living hand-to-mouth
              % who say ‘I have savings which are equal to        % who have defaulted on a loan/mortgage in
              or greater than one month of my salary’             the last 2 years

                     Middle Class                    61%            Middle Class              6%


                 Working Class                 33%                 Working Class                               14%



                                                                 % who say ‘It would be a big financial
             % who say ‘I have enough savings to feel            problem for me if I had to replace a large
             secure about my future’
                                                                 item’

                    Middle Class                           32%     Middle Class                  32%


                Working Class                  13%                Working Class                               56%



           47% of ‘working class’ identifiers have a household income under £20k. 62% have
           household incomes under £28k (‘middle class’ identifiers = 22% and 34% respectively)

Source:	
  BritainThinks	
  2010/11,	
  	
  
Most of the public think there is definitely poverty in the
            UK today – but it’s not a ‘top issue’ in itself

                                                                                                              Increased                 48%
            Quite a lot of poverty in
                                                                                             58%                                               Over	
  the	
  
                 Britain today
                                                                                                                                               last	
  10	
  
                                                                                                        Stayed the same           34%          years,	
  
                                                                                                                                               poverty	
  
                                                                                                                                               has	
  …	
  
                     Very little poverty in
                                                                                   39%
                         Britain today                                                                       Decreased     14%




                                    Economy                                                  61%
                                                                                                               Increase                  56%
                     Unemployment                                            35%
                                                                                                                                               Over	
  the	
  
               Immigration/race                                        23%                                                                     next	
  10	
  
                                                                                                          Stay the same          29%           years,	
  
                                                 NHS               18%                                                                         poverty	
  
                                                                                                                                               will	
  …	
  
                    Inflation/prices                              15%         Main/other	
  
                                                                              important	
  issues	
           Decrease    11%
            Poverty/inequality                                   10%          facing	
  Britain	
  




Sources:	
  BSA,	
  2011;	
  Ipsos	
  Mori,	
  Aug	
  2012	
  
The view that poverty is one of the main issues
            facing Britain is on the rise …

            12	
  



            10	
  



              8	
  



              6	
                                                                                                                                                                                                POVERTY	
  




              4	
  



              2	
  



              0	
  
                Jan-­‐07	
           Jul-­‐07	
          Jan-­‐08	
       Jul-­‐08	
     Jan-­‐09	
     Jul-­‐09	
     Jan-­‐10	
     Jul-­‐10	
     Jan-­‐11	
     Jul-­‐11	
     Jan-­‐12	
     Jul-­‐12	
  




Source:	
  BritainThinks	
  analysis	
  of	
  Ipsos	
  Mori	
  data	
  
… but nowhere near as steep as other economic
            concerns
            80	
  



            70	
  



            60	
  



            50	
  

                                                                                                                                                           POVERTY	
  
            40	
  
                                                                                                                                                           ECONOMY	
  

                                                                                                                                                           UNEMPLOYMENT	
  
            30	
  



            20	
  



            10	
  



              0	
  
               Jan-07              Jul-07             Jan-08              Jul-08   Jan-09   Jul-09   Jan-10   Jul-10   Jan-11   Jul-11   Jan-12   Jul-12




Source:	
  BritainThinks	
  analysis	
  of	
  Ipsos	
  Mori	
  data	
  
For many in the UK, poverty is a matter of
           desert, not unfairness
        Why	
  do	
  people	
  live	
  in	
  need?	
                                         How	
  many	
  welfare	
  recipients	
  are	
  “scroungers”	
  who	
  lie	
  
                                                                                             about	
  their	
  circumstances	
  or	
  deliberately	
  refuse	
  to	
  take	
  
                                                                                             work?	
  
    Poverty is inevitable in                                                                      Very few, if any              3%
                                                                                     37%
         modern life
                                                                                                  A small minority                               25%

                                                                                           A significant minority                                          39%
       Laziness / lack of will
                                                                               26%
               power
                                                                                                        Around half                           22%                      68%	
  
                                                                                                                 Most              7%

             Injustice in society                                        19%

                                                                                           If	
  someone	
  is	
  not	
  ill	
  and	
  they’ve	
  been	
  unemployed	
  for	
  more	
  
                                                                                           than	
  a	
  year,	
  it’s	
  probably	
  because	
  they’re	
  not	
  trying	
  hard	
  
                                                                                           enough	
  to	
  find	
  work	
  
                                      Unlucky                      12%


                                                                                               48%	
  Agree	
  	
  28%	
  Disagree	
  
Source:	
  YouGov,	
  Jan	
  2012;	
  BritainThinks,	
  2010	
  
Fairness is about the undeserving getting too
             much (not the deserving getting too little)

                 69%	
  	
                                        “Britain’s	
  welfare	
  system	
  has	
  created	
  a	
  culture	
  of	
  dependency,	
  

                                                                                           	
  
                                                                  whereby	
  many	
  people,	
  and	
  oSen	
  whole	
  families,	
  get	
  used	
  to	
  living	
  off	
  
                                                                  state	
  benefits…	
  ”


                                                           	
  
                 “The	
  government	
  pays	
  out	
  too	
  much	
  in	
  benefits;	
  welfare	
  levels	
  overall	
  
                 should	
  be	
  reduced”                                                                                                     74%	
  	
  
    say	
  whether	
  …                        	
  
    For	
  each	
  of	
  these	
  groups	
  please	
                         Unemployed	
  people	
  …        	
                                       	
  
                                                                                                                         Single	
  parents	
  who	
  have	
  never	
  
                                                                                                                                      married	
  …


                    Income tax should fall, to pay for
                                                                                                           42%                                 29%
                                         less support



                                             Keep the balance as it is                              32%                                                       44%



               Income tax rates should rise to pay
                                                                                  7%                                        6%
                                 for more support



Source:	
  YouGov,	
  Jan	
  2012;	
  	
  
Feeling the pinch (or being worse off) doesn’t
            necessarily build empathy …
                                                                                                     Under	
        £10,000	
  -­‐	
           £20,000	
  –	
  
                                                                           TOTAL	
  
                                                                                                    £10,000	
        £19,999	
                  £29,999	
  


            A small minority/
                                                                                        28%                   36%           23%                             33%
                very few




                         A significant
                                                                                              39%             37%                        40%                      38%
                           minority




              Half/ a majority                                                          29%             23%                       33%                      31%




                      How	
  many	
  welfare	
  recipients	
  are	
  “scroungers”	
  who	
  lie	
  about	
  their	
  circumstances	
  or	
  
                      deliberately	
  refuse	
  to	
  take	
  work?	
  (by	
  combined	
  household	
  income)	
  
Source:	
  BritainThinks	
  analysis	
  of	
  YouGov	
  data,	
  Jan	
  2012;	
  	
  
… especially for those close to the cliff edge
                                                                                                     Under	
        £10,000	
  -­‐	
           £20,000	
  –	
  
                                                                           TOTAL	
  
                                                                                                    £10,000	
        £19,999	
                  £29,999	
  


            A small minority/
                                                                                        28%                   36%           23% -­‐5	
                      33%
                very few




                         A significant
                                                                                              39%             37%                        40%                      38%
                           minority




              Half/ a majority                                                          29%             23%                       33% +4	
                 31%




                      How	
  many	
  welfare	
  recipients	
  are	
  “scroungers”	
  who	
  lie	
  about	
  their	
  circumstances	
  or	
  
                      deliberately	
  refuse	
  to	
  take	
  work?	
  (by	
  combined	
  household	
  income)	
  
Source:	
  BritainThinks	
  analysis	
  of	
  YouGov	
  data,	
  Jan	
  2012;	
  	
  
In our focus groups, even the poorest often refer
to another, ‘lower’, class …

   “That’s: ‘I’m pregnant, I’m getting a house
    for nothing. I’ve got four kids and no old
                       man”


    “They’re not working
                              “The thing is, we pay
  class, because they don’t
                                for these people”
         bloody work”


… people who don’t work and, more importantly,
“don’t want to work”
No matter where in the social scale people are, they are
anxious to differentiate themselves from “the scrounger”…


   “[they] would know more about the benefits system
              than all of us put together”


  “I’ve worked most of my life – she’s   “That’s not working class,
    never done a days’ work in hers”           that’s a yob”



 … none more so than those who are         “I may be out of work, but I
 themselves out of work or reliant on       want to work, I’m looking
                                           hard for work … and that’s
 benefits                                        the difference”
So what about child poverty?

  Awareness & recognition
  Importance
  Attitudes to children in poverty and their families
The majority think there is at least some child
            poverty, and the assumption is it’s getting worse
            Quite a lot of child poverty                                    Increased                 46%
                                                              36%
                  in Britain today
                                                                                                             Over	
  the	
  
                                                                                                             last	
  10	
  
                         Some child poverty in                        Stayed the same           35%          years,	
  child	
  
                                                                43%
                            Britain today                                                                    poverty	
  
                                                                                                             has	
  …	
  

                     None/very little child                                Decreased    12%
                                                        18%
                    poverty in Britain today




             Fewer than 20 in 100
                                                               42%
            children live in poverty
                                                                             Increase                  51%
                                   20 - 29            18%                                                    Over	
  the	
  
                                                                                                             next	
  10	
  
                                   30 - 49            20%               Stay the same         29%            years,	
  child	
  
                                                                                                             poverty	
  
                                   50 - 69              23%                                                  will	
  …	
  

                                                                            Decrease    14%
                                      70+        5%



Sources:	
  BSA,	
  2011	
  
Considered on its own, child poverty is felt to be a very
            important issue (and one for the Government to resolve)

                        Very important                                    82%


                     Quite important          16%
                                                                                     How important do
                                                                                      you think it is to
              Not very important         1%
                                                                                        reduce child
            Not at all important         0%                                          poverty in Britain?


                                                    Central Government (eg Parliament,
                                                                                                               79%
                         Which of the                         government departments)


                       following groups             Local Government (eg local councils)                 60%


                        are responsible
                                                      People in poverty themselves (inc.
                                                                               parents)            46%

                      for reducing child                   Friends/relatives of people in
                                                                                 poverty     32%

                      poverty in Britain?                                       Charities   28%



Sources:	
  BSA,	
  2011	
  
The causes of child poverty are all about
            characteristics of the parents
                                                                                          Main	
  
                                                                                                                       A	
  reason	
  
                                                                                         reason	
  

               Parents suffer from addiction                                                                   19%                                      75%

                     Parents don't want to work                                                          15%                                      63%

                               Parents lack education                                              10%                                    51%
                        Family breakdown/loss of
                                                                                                   10%                                      56%
                                         parent
                      Parents aren't paid enough                                                   9%                               44%
                                  Parents are long term
                                                                                              6%                                         50%
                                           unemployed
                                 Inequalities in society                                 5%                            25%

                                             Poor quality area                           5%                                         44%

                Benefits are not high enough                                             4%                          19%

                  Too many children in family                                           3%                                       39%




Source:	
  BritainThinks	
  analysis	
  of	
  YouGov	
  data,	
  Jan	
  2012;	
  	
  
The public are in two minds about child poverty
   Poorer parents are often                Children in poverty deserve
      given short shrift                           compassion
•  “Everyone’s struggling - if I can       •  Children are innocents
   do it why can’t they?”                     •  Their parents’ choices
                                                 shouldn’t impact their
•  Benefits are resented                         chances
    •  Starting point is that ‘people in
       the middle are being taken for a
       ride’                               •  Aversion to ‘denying’
                                              children support or
•  Sensitised to symbols of                   opportunities
   parents’ failings                          •  Language of denial avoids
    •  “expensive brands” cigarettes,            the “largesse” of benefits
       alcohol, etc, all demonstrate
       wrong priorities
                                           •  Deep empathy when
•  Unless faced with an innocent              thinking about their
   child, it’s hard to separate from          feelings for their own kids
   the “indolent” parent
Guidelines for campaigning and
communicating
1   Children, not parents
    Parents have made their choices, this is about innocent kids


2   Stories, not stats
    The opposition deal in stories and symbols – you need to respond in kind
    Stats tend towards debates around the definition of poverty, etc…

3   Empathy trumps sympathy
    Choose examples that everyone can identify with, not just feel sorry for


4   Focus on denial, rather than support
    The benefits narrative is toxic, you need to frame this in a different way


5   Children, not teens
    The older they get, the more responsible they are – rehabilitating young
    people is for a different campaign!
… and if you can show a concrete benefit to people who aren’t in poverty, that
would really help

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Poverty & Child Poverty Presentation

  • 1. Public attitudes to poverty and child poverty
  • 2. Contents 1.  Poverty in the UK •  Context •  Importance •  Attitudes to people in poverty 2.  Child poverty in the UK •  Awareness & recognition •  Importance •  Attitudes to children in poverty and their families 3.  Guidelines for campaigning and communicating about child poverty
  • 3. Poverty in the UK Context Importance Attitudes to people in poverty
  • 4. People are hunkered down and focusing on the aspects of life that they can control “I Just feel like I’ve got no way of affecting Britain what goes on out there – especially now that 14% it’s all about Europe…” Optimistic Where I live & “I am definitely working harder – I work need the company to 34% “Shopping in a do well, and I need to keep my job” Optimistic few different “We’ve been places, doing a lot getting “I think I’m just more simple coupons, that focusing on how cheap treats sort of thing” much I spend, 52% with the kids” what I buy, making things last longer.” Optimistic Me & my family Sources:  YouGov;  BritainThinks  qualita8ve  data    
  • 5. Economic concerns are a lens for everything right now Thinking about the next two or three years, how worried are you that people like you will... Not  have  enough   Suffer  directly   Lose  their  job/     money  to  live   from  cuts  in   have  difficulty   Lose  their  home   comfortably   public  services   finding  work     65%   66%   59%   42%   60%   “the  cuts  are  having  an  impact  on  my  own  life”   Sources:  YouGov,  Sept  2012    
  • 6. People who see themselves as “working class” are almost all living hand-to-mouth % who say ‘I have savings which are equal to % who have defaulted on a loan/mortgage in or greater than one month of my salary’ the last 2 years Middle Class 61% Middle Class 6% Working Class 33% Working Class 14% % who say ‘It would be a big financial % who say ‘I have enough savings to feel problem for me if I had to replace a large secure about my future’ item’ Middle Class 32% Middle Class 32% Working Class 13% Working Class 56% 47% of ‘working class’ identifiers have a household income under £20k. 62% have household incomes under £28k (‘middle class’ identifiers = 22% and 34% respectively) Source:  BritainThinks  2010/11,    
  • 7. Most of the public think there is definitely poverty in the UK today – but it’s not a ‘top issue’ in itself Increased 48% Quite a lot of poverty in 58% Over  the   Britain today last  10   Stayed the same 34% years,   poverty   has  …   Very little poverty in 39% Britain today Decreased 14% Economy 61% Increase 56% Unemployment 35% Over  the   Immigration/race 23% next  10   Stay the same 29% years,   NHS 18% poverty   will  …   Inflation/prices 15% Main/other   important  issues   Decrease 11% Poverty/inequality 10% facing  Britain   Sources:  BSA,  2011;  Ipsos  Mori,  Aug  2012  
  • 8. The view that poverty is one of the main issues facing Britain is on the rise … 12   10   8   6   POVERTY   4   2   0   Jan-­‐07   Jul-­‐07   Jan-­‐08   Jul-­‐08   Jan-­‐09   Jul-­‐09   Jan-­‐10   Jul-­‐10   Jan-­‐11   Jul-­‐11   Jan-­‐12   Jul-­‐12   Source:  BritainThinks  analysis  of  Ipsos  Mori  data  
  • 9. … but nowhere near as steep as other economic concerns 80   70   60   50   POVERTY   40   ECONOMY   UNEMPLOYMENT   30   20   10   0   Jan-07 Jul-07 Jan-08 Jul-08 Jan-09 Jul-09 Jan-10 Jul-10 Jan-11 Jul-11 Jan-12 Jul-12 Source:  BritainThinks  analysis  of  Ipsos  Mori  data  
  • 10. For many in the UK, poverty is a matter of desert, not unfairness Why  do  people  live  in  need?   How  many  welfare  recipients  are  “scroungers”  who  lie   about  their  circumstances  or  deliberately  refuse  to  take   work?   Poverty is inevitable in Very few, if any 3% 37% modern life A small minority 25% A significant minority 39% Laziness / lack of will 26% power Around half 22% 68%   Most 7% Injustice in society 19% If  someone  is  not  ill  and  they’ve  been  unemployed  for  more   than  a  year,  it’s  probably  because  they’re  not  trying  hard   enough  to  find  work   Unlucky 12% 48%  Agree    28%  Disagree   Source:  YouGov,  Jan  2012;  BritainThinks,  2010  
  • 11. Fairness is about the undeserving getting too much (not the deserving getting too little) 69%     “Britain’s  welfare  system  has  created  a  culture  of  dependency,     whereby  many  people,  and  oSen  whole  families,  get  used  to  living  off   state  benefits…  ”   “The  government  pays  out  too  much  in  benefits;  welfare  levels  overall   should  be  reduced” 74%     say  whether  …   For  each  of  these  groups  please   Unemployed  people  …     Single  parents  who  have  never   married  … Income tax should fall, to pay for 42% 29% less support Keep the balance as it is 32% 44% Income tax rates should rise to pay 7% 6% for more support Source:  YouGov,  Jan  2012;    
  • 12. Feeling the pinch (or being worse off) doesn’t necessarily build empathy … Under   £10,000  -­‐   £20,000  –   TOTAL   £10,000   £19,999   £29,999   A small minority/ 28% 36% 23% 33% very few A significant 39% 37% 40% 38% minority Half/ a majority 29% 23% 33% 31% How  many  welfare  recipients  are  “scroungers”  who  lie  about  their  circumstances  or   deliberately  refuse  to  take  work?  (by  combined  household  income)   Source:  BritainThinks  analysis  of  YouGov  data,  Jan  2012;    
  • 13. … especially for those close to the cliff edge Under   £10,000  -­‐   £20,000  –   TOTAL   £10,000   £19,999   £29,999   A small minority/ 28% 36% 23% -­‐5   33% very few A significant 39% 37% 40% 38% minority Half/ a majority 29% 23% 33% +4   31% How  many  welfare  recipients  are  “scroungers”  who  lie  about  their  circumstances  or   deliberately  refuse  to  take  work?  (by  combined  household  income)   Source:  BritainThinks  analysis  of  YouGov  data,  Jan  2012;    
  • 14. In our focus groups, even the poorest often refer to another, ‘lower’, class … “That’s: ‘I’m pregnant, I’m getting a house for nothing. I’ve got four kids and no old man” “They’re not working “The thing is, we pay class, because they don’t for these people” bloody work” … people who don’t work and, more importantly, “don’t want to work”
  • 15. No matter where in the social scale people are, they are anxious to differentiate themselves from “the scrounger”… “[they] would know more about the benefits system than all of us put together” “I’ve worked most of my life – she’s “That’s not working class, never done a days’ work in hers” that’s a yob” … none more so than those who are “I may be out of work, but I themselves out of work or reliant on want to work, I’m looking hard for work … and that’s benefits the difference”
  • 16. So what about child poverty? Awareness & recognition Importance Attitudes to children in poverty and their families
  • 17. The majority think there is at least some child poverty, and the assumption is it’s getting worse Quite a lot of child poverty Increased 46% 36% in Britain today Over  the   last  10   Some child poverty in Stayed the same 35% years,  child   43% Britain today poverty   has  …   None/very little child Decreased 12% 18% poverty in Britain today Fewer than 20 in 100 42% children live in poverty Increase 51% 20 - 29 18% Over  the   next  10   30 - 49 20% Stay the same 29% years,  child   poverty   50 - 69 23% will  …   Decrease 14% 70+ 5% Sources:  BSA,  2011  
  • 18. Considered on its own, child poverty is felt to be a very important issue (and one for the Government to resolve) Very important 82% Quite important 16% How important do you think it is to Not very important 1% reduce child Not at all important 0% poverty in Britain? Central Government (eg Parliament, 79% Which of the government departments) following groups Local Government (eg local councils) 60% are responsible People in poverty themselves (inc. parents) 46% for reducing child Friends/relatives of people in poverty 32% poverty in Britain? Charities 28% Sources:  BSA,  2011  
  • 19. The causes of child poverty are all about characteristics of the parents Main   A  reason   reason   Parents suffer from addiction 19% 75% Parents don't want to work 15% 63% Parents lack education 10% 51% Family breakdown/loss of 10% 56% parent Parents aren't paid enough 9% 44% Parents are long term 6% 50% unemployed Inequalities in society 5% 25% Poor quality area 5% 44% Benefits are not high enough 4% 19% Too many children in family 3% 39% Source:  BritainThinks  analysis  of  YouGov  data,  Jan  2012;    
  • 20. The public are in two minds about child poverty Poorer parents are often Children in poverty deserve given short shrift compassion •  “Everyone’s struggling - if I can •  Children are innocents do it why can’t they?” •  Their parents’ choices shouldn’t impact their •  Benefits are resented chances •  Starting point is that ‘people in the middle are being taken for a ride’ •  Aversion to ‘denying’ children support or •  Sensitised to symbols of opportunities parents’ failings •  Language of denial avoids •  “expensive brands” cigarettes, the “largesse” of benefits alcohol, etc, all demonstrate wrong priorities •  Deep empathy when •  Unless faced with an innocent thinking about their child, it’s hard to separate from feelings for their own kids the “indolent” parent
  • 21. Guidelines for campaigning and communicating
  • 22. 1 Children, not parents Parents have made their choices, this is about innocent kids 2 Stories, not stats The opposition deal in stories and symbols – you need to respond in kind Stats tend towards debates around the definition of poverty, etc… 3 Empathy trumps sympathy Choose examples that everyone can identify with, not just feel sorry for 4 Focus on denial, rather than support The benefits narrative is toxic, you need to frame this in a different way 5 Children, not teens The older they get, the more responsible they are – rehabilitating young people is for a different campaign! … and if you can show a concrete benefit to people who aren’t in poverty, that would really help