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The approach …
In the Western world In the orient
 Self, ego and identity
 The division of : Self as
subject Vs. Self as object
(William James)
 Identifies and interprets
identity as a mere “sense” of
self-sameness.
 No mention of the experience
of self-sameness.
 Atman, ahamkara and the
concern for self-sameness
(nitya-anitya viveka)
 The division of : Vishayin
(subject) and Vishaya
(object)
 The tradition of Yoga and
Advaita speaks about a firm
foundation for self-sameness.
Influences of the Western-world
philosophers…
The empiricist tradition The rational tradition
 This school of thought was
based on the works of David
Hume, an 18th-century
Scottish philosopher.
 Mainly denied the self and
the concept of self-sameness
because it essentially was not
‘measureable’.
 Rejected ‘causality’.
 This school of thought was
based on the teachings of
Rene Descartes and
Immanuel Kant.
 Affirmed the concept of the
self on the other.
 Strong belief in causality in
order to grasp an idea and
therefore acknowledged the
“self” as the knower that
remains the same with the
passage of time.
Vis-à-vis the philosophy in the sub-
continent…
Upanishadic thought Buddhist thought
 The ‘Self’ has been described
as the ‘Atman’ and the
Vedanta has lain emphasis on
that self as the observer/seer.
 This paved the way for the
Samkhya school of thought
that speaks about the
observer (Purusha) and the
observed (Prakriti).
 The ‘Self’ was denied through
the process of ‘Anatta’.
 Anatta is the rejection of all
material things that are said
to cause attachment and
pain.
Yoga and Advaita
 The flow of thoughts can be, through discipline and careful
practice, controlled and eventually, stopped altogether
(Yoga Sutras by Patanjali).
 Only then does the mind reach the “fourth state” as spoken
about in the Mandukya Upanishad.
 These thoughts are what Patanjali calls “chitta-vrittis”;
which like a river (chitta-nadi : Vyasa); flow through the
mind.
 The ego is thus effaced and the stage that follows ultimately
is called Samadhi.
 Advaita speaks about the self as the witness and the only
factor that is changeless.
Advaita and pre-Renaissance western
philosophy
 Hume too had rejected the self but the assumption in
the Western world is in stark contrast to that in India.
 The Indian tradition has been built upon the
foundation of karma and rebirth.
 The west on the other hand believes in a single life, is
achievement-focused and is not based on the concept
of cause and consequence.
 Advaita focused on the Drg or the one that witnesses.
 Buddhism spoke about withdrawal from the senses
and the achievement of Nirvana.
Behavioral psychology in the west
 The western belief was that the self is being controlled
by an outside force over which we can have no control.
 The psychologists refused to enter the vicissitudes of
the mind and dismissed it as an “impenetrable
mystery”.
 It is thus that the desire to “control” others found
validation, so as to create order.
Indian thought…
 The desire to control humans does not exist.
 The various schools of thought have repeatedly spoken
about “introspection”.
 Understanding oneself was the underlying feature in
the Indian way of thought.
 The eternal belief in the fact that knowledge is that
which helps liberation (from the repeated cycle of
births and deaths) “Sa vidya ya vimuktaye”.
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Comparing Views of Self and Identity in Western and Eastern Philosophy

  • 2. The approach … In the Western world In the orient  Self, ego and identity  The division of : Self as subject Vs. Self as object (William James)  Identifies and interprets identity as a mere “sense” of self-sameness.  No mention of the experience of self-sameness.  Atman, ahamkara and the concern for self-sameness (nitya-anitya viveka)  The division of : Vishayin (subject) and Vishaya (object)  The tradition of Yoga and Advaita speaks about a firm foundation for self-sameness.
  • 3. Influences of the Western-world philosophers… The empiricist tradition The rational tradition  This school of thought was based on the works of David Hume, an 18th-century Scottish philosopher.  Mainly denied the self and the concept of self-sameness because it essentially was not ‘measureable’.  Rejected ‘causality’.  This school of thought was based on the teachings of Rene Descartes and Immanuel Kant.  Affirmed the concept of the self on the other.  Strong belief in causality in order to grasp an idea and therefore acknowledged the “self” as the knower that remains the same with the passage of time.
  • 4. Vis-à-vis the philosophy in the sub- continent… Upanishadic thought Buddhist thought  The ‘Self’ has been described as the ‘Atman’ and the Vedanta has lain emphasis on that self as the observer/seer.  This paved the way for the Samkhya school of thought that speaks about the observer (Purusha) and the observed (Prakriti).  The ‘Self’ was denied through the process of ‘Anatta’.  Anatta is the rejection of all material things that are said to cause attachment and pain.
  • 5. Yoga and Advaita  The flow of thoughts can be, through discipline and careful practice, controlled and eventually, stopped altogether (Yoga Sutras by Patanjali).  Only then does the mind reach the “fourth state” as spoken about in the Mandukya Upanishad.  These thoughts are what Patanjali calls “chitta-vrittis”; which like a river (chitta-nadi : Vyasa); flow through the mind.  The ego is thus effaced and the stage that follows ultimately is called Samadhi.  Advaita speaks about the self as the witness and the only factor that is changeless.
  • 6. Advaita and pre-Renaissance western philosophy  Hume too had rejected the self but the assumption in the Western world is in stark contrast to that in India.  The Indian tradition has been built upon the foundation of karma and rebirth.  The west on the other hand believes in a single life, is achievement-focused and is not based on the concept of cause and consequence.  Advaita focused on the Drg or the one that witnesses.  Buddhism spoke about withdrawal from the senses and the achievement of Nirvana.
  • 7. Behavioral psychology in the west  The western belief was that the self is being controlled by an outside force over which we can have no control.  The psychologists refused to enter the vicissitudes of the mind and dismissed it as an “impenetrable mystery”.  It is thus that the desire to “control” others found validation, so as to create order.
  • 8. Indian thought…  The desire to control humans does not exist.  The various schools of thought have repeatedly spoken about “introspection”.  Understanding oneself was the underlying feature in the Indian way of thought.  The eternal belief in the fact that knowledge is that which helps liberation (from the repeated cycle of births and deaths) “Sa vidya ya vimuktaye”.